In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jim Sandoz writes:
> Cy Schubert - CITS Open Systems Group wrote:
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> > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jim Sandoz writes:
> >>ipf weaknesses (in my eyes):
> >>  - managability across multiple machines.
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>  >
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> > At our site we use a combination of ipfmeta, CVS, Makefiles, and 
> > Kerberos rsh or SSH to manage our kernel IPF packet filters. 
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> my point exactly.      :*) x 10.

Jim,

Even though you say you're not in the GUI camp, you in fact would like 
IPF to have a GUI. Have you tried isba? Mind you, a Web based approach, 
using HTTPS and passwords of course, would be a better approach. 
Unfortunately, as sexy as GUI's are, when you're managing a virtual 
firewall, e.g. a group of hosts that should be behind a firewall but 
due circumstances, (politics) beyond one's control, a GUI in the 
traditional sense would actually add to an SA's workload, not to 
mention frustration level for those of us who have a good command of 
vi. (Gawd I hate mouse clicking my way to completing a task, mind you 
talk to some of the junior SA's I know and they'd tell you the complete 
opposite. I suppose it's personal preference and acquired taste.)


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