First I DID not send the Offending email. I got two of them and posted
to the list.

Yes the number of hops is insane but it ain't my box.

On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 08:04 +1000, Damien Gardner wrote:
> Oh good, it's not us this time :)
> 
> I'd guess you've got an Obtuse SMTPD somewhere in your network (or something
> that works a lot like it)..  When there's an insanely large number of
> received: lines in your email, sendmail will generally reject it, as the
> default sendmail config allows 27 hops.  Now Obtuse (and presumably a few
> others?) goes to pass such a message to sendmail, gets the 5xx error, and
> isntead of canning it, it decides that it might work if it tries again
> later, so re-queues it..
> 
> Which basically ends up with an email back to your mailbox every 5 minutes.
> Easiest way to check who is generating it, is to simply look in the headers
> of the bounce message, and see what server is generating it - then you can
> contact the admin of that server, and get them to remove the offending
> message from their queue..  If they're running Obtuse, they'll be aware of
> the problem and can fix it very quickly :)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> DG
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: G. Roderick Singleton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 7:49 AM
> To: ipfilter list
> Subject: bounced with too many hops in my mailbox
> Importance: High
> 
> 
> Is there a problem? All of a sudden I am getting MAILER-DAEMON messages
> claiming to many hops, yet this is the first message I have sent in at
> least a month.
> 
> Here is a bit of an excerpt so that anyone who is taking care of the
> list can start troubleshooting (whole message is available):
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G. Roderick Singleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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