I usually try to understand first and seek to be understood second.  Still,
I sense you may be misunderstanding my post about this a few days ago.  It
might help to go back and put oneself at the timeframe of when the code
example came out.  There is a lot more info that is common knowledge today
that wasn't at that time.  My view of their example code started the day it
came out.  That view hasn't changed simply because members in the developer
community have figured things out on their own.  I sent my feedback to Apple
the day it came out, not just a few days ago when I mentioned it in
retrospect.  However, I wouldn't be so sure there aren't a few things they
have not released that may yet be 'discovered' by developers.

The fact that you and I know what we know can't be compared to someone just
starting out on iPhone app development.  If Apple had better example code of
say the best way to slide panels (since iPhone's javascript is soooo slow),
-webkit buttons & input fields (I had never heard/seen -webkit anything
prior), different viewport settings (yes, their code shows one way) for
different purposes/sizes etc.. It would be the difference between getting
proper techniques/processes from the horses mouth and spending hours/days
banging one's head against a wall.

Maybe they can't release anything today that sheds new light for you or
myself on things we can do on the phone. But my head still hurts from that
wall.  And not having an iPhone in hand to troubleshoot makes that a steel
wall that hits back.

-=R

On 8/9/07 1:37 PM, "craig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> I think we are in agreement overall.  I'm just not sure how Apple can
> give us anything more than generic info (and that is really a
> criticism of Apple, not a defense).  Existing knowledge provides
> almost everything we need to know to write apps in the current iPhone
> app paradigm.  Until they give us more access to the underlying
> hardware than the Safari sandbox permits (and this could even mean
> access to unique iPhone finger gestures), I am not sure what more
> Apple can teach me.  So yeah, their example is lame, but I don't see
> how they could really do more in a significant, meaningful way
> anyhow.  I think Joe's IUI is proof that existing knowledge in the
> community is as good or better than what Apple can tell us at this
> point.
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
> > 



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