Hi Andy sorry for your installation troubles, may I ask if you are
using OSX or the Windows version?  Were you able to get the app
installed finally?  Any feed back you can provide is great.  We have
an auto update feature built in to address any issues and fix them as
soon as they are identified.  This honestly is the first time I heard
of this error.

If you would like to preview the interface on your iPhone go to
http://music.dottunes.net:9998  (no password needed for the Guest
account)

Also regarding your and Shelly's questions:

The iPhone plugin is in essence some extra CSS (along with lots of
backend coding), however there is more that goes into it than that.
The plugin will actually display your album art, as well as all Meta
data (Comments, Lyrics, etc) on the file detail page.  Beside that,
the Share Plugin(s) functionality allow you to open up your DOTTUNES
to multiple users.

True there are home brew methods and other apps out there.  Not only
does DT work on OSX and Windows it will run on any machine that has
iTunes on it.  Doesnt need to be anything special.  Not trying to be
the only solution and realize we never will. At the same time, we feel
that having all of the features that we do (SSL, Flash player, access
over multiple devices etc) we are a little different.  I also realize
most of the people here reading this list are well smart enough to
whip something like this up on their own, however there are many
people who enjoy clicking a few buttons and getting access to their
entire iTunes library.

Again being that this is a developer's group and not a sales platform,
my whole reason for even following up is that I had posted the
question about Quicktime & Etags while I was in research mode, and
answered all related responses to it.  This forum has helped me to
better understand the iPhone interface and I thought I would share the
results of our work!

As for why we are charging for the Plug-In, well the application has
been slowly built over the course of 4 years.  My team came on board
with the web stuff 2 years ago.  We recently made the decision to give
the core parts of the app away free, and allow people to customize it
with Plug-Ins based on their needs.  I know some people will love this
and some will hate it.  Like they say you can't please them all!

Once again, anyone with any development related questions I look
forward to jumping back into that part of the group.  Now that this
project has launched I look forward to working with and learning from
you all back in R&D world.

Have a great day!

Phil


On Sep 3, 4:16 am, Andy Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Phil,
>
> maybe I did something wrong, but
>
> - when I downloaded DOT.TUNES (OSX) and clicked GetKey (without entering
> data) it hung and I had to kill it in order to be able to continue.
>
> - I don't see anything special for iPhones there - except that I could buy
> an iPhone-Plugin. Not sure what that is supposed to do, except loading a
> couple of different CSS.
>
> best
>
> andy
>
> at 02.09.2007 6:16 Uhr, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hey all not at all trying to spam here but thought I would follow up
> > to my original question and promise, and let you all know about the
> > official release of our application called DOT.TUNES that lets you
> > stream anything (except ITMS files or non-iphone encoded videos) to
> > your iPhone!  Check it out athttp://www.dottunes.net
>
> > Now that the project has launched I will have more time to spend here
> > learning all the latest tricks.
>
> > And hats off to Joe Hewitt as always for providing iUI which served as
> > a nice tutorial for what was possible!
>
> > Phil
> > TriAgency / DOT.TUNES development team
>
> >http://triagency.com
> >http://www.dottunes.net
>
> > On Jul 20, 12:11 am, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> yeah we figured it out, the byte range request wasnt right initially.
> >> as soon as that was fixed we were fine.
>
> >> On Jul 16, 5:30 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> Ok - try again.  I spoke too quickly.  The issue for me seemed to be
> >>> that my server wasn't sending "content-range" when iphone/quicktime
> >>> asked for all of the bytes by range.  In other words, it appears to be
> >>> important that range be provided by the server when a range is
> >>> requested by the client, even if it's the whole range.  I don't send a
> >>> range if none requested.
>
> >>> On Jul 16, 12:41 am, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>> I think I figured it out.  I was having the same problem.  Check to
> >>>> see if your server is responding with status 206 Partial Content.  I'm
> >>>> doing something with CGI.pm and had to put in a little hack to get it
> >>>> to take my declaration of the status.  Suddenly the content started
> >>>> playing on the iphone.  I guess the iphone doesn't like to make a
> >>>> content-range request and get a status of 200.
>
> >>>> On Jul 6, 12:47 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >>>>> Also Christopher the odd thing is that when I run the test CURL on my
> >>>>> remote webserver and custom server on the same file I get the same
> >>>>> response.
>
> >>>>> curl -range 0-99http://www.triagency.com/Marksmen.mov
>
> >>>>> is the format I am using... Any thoughts?
>
> >>>>> On Jul 6, 2:49 pm, "Christopher Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> On 7/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> Greetings all.  I can post a .MOV or .MP3 file that has been encoded
> >>>>>>> according to the Apple spec, on any of my normal webservers, pull up
> >>>>>>> that URL and have the file play back beautifully over the iPhone.
>
> >>>>>>> Where I am stuck, is that we have a app that has a custom webserver
> >>>>>>> built into it.  This server responds fine to every device and browser
> >>>>>>> so far in serving mp3 or quicktime files (including on Safari 2 & 3 on
> >>>>>>> OSX).
>
> >>>>>> I think the answer is fairly simple, your custom webserver isn't
> >>>>>> handling byte-range requests.
>
> >>>>>> As
> >>>>>> per:http://developer.apple.com/iphone/designingcontent.html#configure_you
> >>>>>> ...
>
> >>>>>> [quote]
> >>>>>> Configure Your Server
>
> >>>>>> HTTP servers hosting media files for iPhone must support byte-range
> >>>>>> requests, which iPhone uses to perform random access in media
> >>>>>> playback. (Byte-range support is also known as content-range or
> >>>>>> partial-range support.) Most, but not all, HTTP 1.1 servers already
> >>>>>> support byte-range requests.
>
> >>>>>> If you are not sure whether your media server supports byte-range
> >>>>>> requests, you can open the Terminal application in Mac OS X and use
> >>>>>> the curl command-line tool to download a short segment from a file on
> >>>>>> the server:
>
> >>>>>> curl -range 0-99http://example.com/test.mov-o/dev/null
> >>>>>> If the tool reports that it downloaded 100 bytes, the media server
> >>>>>> correctly handled the byte-range request. If it downloads the entire
> >>>>>> file, you may need to update the media server. For more information on
> >>>>>> curl, see Mac OS X Man Pages.
>
> >>>>>> Ensure that your HTTP server sends the correct MIME types for movie
> >>>>>> family file suffixes shown in the following table.
>
> >>>>>> File name suffix        MIME type
> >>>>>> .mov    video/quicktime
> >>>>>> .mp4    video/mp4
> >>>>>> .m4v    video/x-m4v
> >>>>>> .3gp    video/3gpp
> >>>>>> Be aware that iPhone supports movies greater than 2 GB. However, some
> >>>>>> older web servers are not able to serve files this large. Apache 2
> >>>>>> supports downloading files greater than 2GB.
>
> >>>>>> RTSP is not supported.
> >>>>>> [/quote]
>
> >>>>>> Let us know if this was the problem.
>
> >>>>>> -- Christopher Allen
>
> --
> Andy Fuchs
>
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