Josh,

Very valid points. Thanks, Michael.

On May 20, 10:09 pm, Josh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, its not about weather you can (or would want) IE on an iPhone..
> Its more about if you have an app that is simple enough that the
> iPhone UI would be just fine (even great) for use on a desktop web
> browser. Then you save yourself the effort of re-implementing your
> UI.. Not to mention use on other mobile devices. After all we are
> makeing webapps that just happen to be optimized for the iphone (more
> so for some than others), but there is no reason to limit support
> unless you have to for needed or value-add functionality.(IMHO)
>
> Josh
>
> On May 20, 10:22 am, wuf810 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Am I missing something here...even if these frameworks support IE/
> > Opera, will these browser ever be available on the iPhone? Is it
> > possible to load using a "jailbroken" iPhone?
>
> > Even if yes would it not then be an issue that these browser won't
> > support all the additional apple tags/css such as transitions, curved
> > field boxes etc?
>
> > M.
>
> > On May 20, 3:08 pm, Chrilith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Should work on IE with tweaks. At the begining of the development it
> > > was, but as the code grown I was facing a problem with unimplemented
> > > function in IE and
> > > I didn't want to make the code bigger implementing missing stuff.
>
> > > But if you take a look at my TODO list, IE and Opera support is
> > > listed ;)
>
> > > On May 20, 3:34 pm, Josh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Just out of curiosity, what is the provailing reason for not
> > > > supporting all browsers with these frameworks? I played with
> > > > Webapp.net and liked it in firefox and my iphone but it didn't run in
> > > > IE at all... I have  been running an iphone app called PassVault since
> > > > early July of 07 and its about time for a refactoring.. I want to move
> > > > more towards a native iphone look but not at the cost of supporting
> > > > any browser.
>
> > > > If there is a specific technical reason the thats cool, if there isn't
> > > > then maybe I'll just grab the sample and get it working in IE..
>
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Joshhttps://passvault.ktomics.net
>
> > > > On May 20, 2:55 am, Chrilith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Nice, if you have any question, feel free to ask.
>
> > > > > On May 20, 2:03 am, wuf810 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Just had a look at WAn and must say I'm impressed. Very small
> > > > > > footprint - probably more suitable to Edge than the Dashcode 
> > > > > > generated
> > > > > > files....
>
> > > > > > I will have a go rewriting one of my apps with WAn and let you know
> > > > > > how it compares to Dashcode...
>
> > > > > > On May 19, 10:35 pm, wuf810 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > I prefer Dashcode if I'm honest. I'm hoping we will see further
> > > > > > > development with each new SDK release....currently missing for me 
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > the On/Off button, inclusion of fullscreen meta tag, activity
> > > > > > > indicator built in to browser mode and few other things.
>
> > > > > > > However for the moment Dashcode provides a good and extendible
> > > > > > > template for iPhone web apps....
>
> > > > > > > Regards, Michael
>
> > > > > > > On May 16, 6:37 pm, Edwin Meijer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Not sure how many folks have tried both Dashcode that comes 
> > > > > > > > with the
> > > > > > > > new iPhone SDK and iUI or WAn... I have used Dashcode... you can
> > > > > > > > create a pretty slick app using Dashcode that look like the 
> > > > > > > > native
> > > > > > > > apps (including left-to-right transitions, 
> > > > > > > > flip-backside-on-top, etc).
> > > > > > > > The dashcode javascript libraries are not scrambled and it's 
> > > > > > > > not too
> > > > > > > > hard to extend the javascript code if you find something 
> > > > > > > > missing in
> > > > > > > > their functionality...
>
> > > > > > > > However, today, it only runs in the Simulator.... when you 
> > > > > > > > deploy it
> > > > > > > > and try to run it on a real iPhone, you will find the smooth 
> > > > > > > > left-to-
> > > > > > > > right transitions and many of the other whistle-bells (e.g. 
> > > > > > > > auto-hide
> > > > > > > > of address-bar and navigation bar) are not working yet... you 
> > > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > need the 2.0 firmware for that.
>
> > > > > > > > I am tempted to rewrite my webapp using WAn, so I can get the
> > > > > > > > functionality working on a real iPhone and because I am not a 
> > > > > > > > big fan
> > > > > > > > of having to use Dashcode for doing my development (e.g. there 
> > > > > > > > is no
> > > > > > > > SVN support, etc in the tool)...
>
> > > > > > > > I realize the Objective-C SDK is getting the most attention and 
> > > > > > > > Apple
> > > > > > > > will put most of their efforts there, but what is the future of 
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > iUI and WAn frameworks, assuming that Apple will continue to 
> > > > > > > > support
> > > > > > > > web app development for the iPhone as a first-class-citizen and
> > > > > > > > continue to add more integration support (e.g. javascript  
> > > > > > > > library for
> > > > > > > > GPS, address-book, etc.)... ?
>
> > > > > > > > Edwin- Hide quoted text -
>
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