Shelly,

Javascript frameworks such as iUI and my own, jQTouch, serve a  
different purpose than Dashcode. Each has it's own benefits and  
drawbacks, but ultimately, our frameworks are meant for Javascript  
developers looking for lightweight, hand-tailored solutions. Dashcode,  
on the other hand, is less extensible and heavier, yet easier to dive  
into with a GUI. Quite basically, Dashcode is the Dreamweaver of  
iPhone web development.

In my framework, jQTouch, for example, the simple list-style app you  
mentioned can be created with just one line of Javascript and whatever  
HTML you need. Again, this is better for developers and, in my case,  
jQuery users — but it certainly lacks the certain drag 'n drop ease.  
Also, developers working with lots of dynamic data and dynamically  
generated screens will find working directly in Javascript easier.

iUI and jQTouch are created by a strong community of developers, and I  
find it incredibly cynical for you to passively say these efforts are  
"half as good as Dashcode." Maybe you don't know why you would want to  
use iUI — but I implore you to stop asking the community. Either find  
out on your own or stick with what works for you.
We wouldn't have thousands of members in our prospective camps if  
people didn't find value in our frameworks.

And I don't think your statement on SDK 3.0 is well-informed — I know  
first hand what most of the changes are, and I can guarantee you that  
our frameworks (and other libraries) will beat Dashcode to  
incorporating the new functionality.

Best,

David Kaneda

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jQTouch Framework - www.jqtouch.com
WebKit Blog - www.webkitbits.com
Personal Site - www.davidkaneda.com


On May 13, 2009, at 7:56 AM, shelly wrote:

>
> And now its half as good as dashcode.
>
> The biggest argument I've seen against dashcode is the size of the
> library, but you don't have to use a lot of parts, and I think with
> dashcode there is a tendancy to throw in a lot more things, with
> causes the number of included js files to increase. However I've found
> the best way to use dashcode, is to use the minium amount of
> components you need, than hand code most of the js. A standard list-
> style app using css webkit transitions instead of parts can be done in
> a few 100 lines of code.
>
> The quickconnect library allows your dashcode app to be used natively,
> If your using java I have an integration with popular java based
> component suites.
>
> So again why would I want to use IUI. Which probably won't have many
> of sdk 3.0 features anyway.
>
> On May 12, 4:55 pm, Derek Williams <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Nice work, thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Sean Gilligan  
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> iUI 0.20 is available for download from Google code:
>>
>>> http://iui.googlecode.com/files/iui-0.20.tar.gz
>>
>>> Enhancement and Bug-fixes are listed in the "Issues" DB for the tag
>>> REL-0.20:
>>
>>> http://code.google.com/p/iui/issues/list?q=label%3Amilestone 
>>> %20label%...
>>
>> --
>> Derek Williams
>> Cell: 970.214.8928
>> Home Office: 970.416.8996- Hide quoted text -
>>
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