Great points, I have not been too concerned about the memory footprint.
 Would it make sense to have a version of jquery that was only for
Safari/Chrome?  I wonder how much smaller it would be?

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Link, Rainer <[email protected]>wrote:

> Is learning jQuery really such a bad thing? I recently completed my first
> mobile web app designed for the iPhone. It's been a great experience and
> I've learned a ton but some questions still linger in my mind including, is
> jQuery a good idea for mobile web apps?
>
> We use jQuery for all of our desktop web apps and I absolutely love it. But
> when I started out on my mobile project I decided not to use it (at first)
> because even minified it's still 56k and its main purpose, to mitigate
> variations across different browsers, doesn't apply to a site targeted
> solely at WebKit. But it really isn't a question of jQuery or no framework
> at all because the DOM is missing several features that you end up having to
> write yourself (and maintain and teach others on your team). Plus, code
> written using jQuery tends to be smaller, so these factors offset at least
> somewhat the initial download hit that you take. Add to that the
> productivity gains that you get using jQuery and I had to rethink my initial
> decision and ended up including jQuery in my iPhone project.
>
> So I'm just curious - where did others fall out on this debate? Of course
> if you're using jQTouch you also need jQuery, but is anyone out there using
> jQuery with iui? I get that iui contains a few helper functions for getting
> elements by class name, etc, but these features pale in comparison to the
> power of jQuery, IMO.
>
> Rainer
>
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> On Behalf Of Remi Grumeau
> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 10:23 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: to devlop applications for the iphone
>
> First download the iphone sdk, which includes all needed tools and
> specially the iphone simulator.
> for native apps: just follow instructions on apple.com and included
> samples.
> for webapps: i would recommand iUI if you want transitions effects or
> iwebkit if you don t care and really need a full documentation. They
> are both pretty simple to use. JQTouch is just too fat for current
> mobile speed and needs you to learn JQuery.
> for crappy native app solutions: ask Google about PhoneGap or Titanium :)
>
> 2010/3/15, ade <[email protected]>:
> > appcellerator titanium is also very good as it melds everything into one
> app
> >
> > On 15/03/2010 16:46, Derek Williams wrote:
> >> TextMate is a good start.  Firebug, or the Chrome tools are also good
> >> for debugging javascript, Yes I know firebug is only for firefox, but
> >> it can still be helpful.  Use a good library, JQuery and/or one of its
> >> derivatives made for mobile platforms (jqtouch, iui).
> >>
> >> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 2:59 AM, rim negra <[email protected]
> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     Hi
> >>     I just need to know which tools should be installed in my Mac book
> >>     to be able to devlop applications and web applications for the
> iphone
> >>
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