On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Garrett Cooper <yaneg...@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
>>> when will this be included in CVS. Our customers are waiting for this
>>> patch to be approved upstream. And this has become very very important.
>>>
>>
>> Customers? Customers of Cisco? Eh. Not the best argument I would use
>> to get people motivated/interested in, to be honest :)
>
> Perhaps not, but the more that folks from 3rd parties get their changes in,
> the greater the likelihood of progress and contribution back to opensource
> projects. Any level of resistance from large companies generally leads to
> siloing and wasted effort -- especially when tools like ipmitool are
> valuable in products, but ultimately don't amount to much in terms of $$$,
> and thus this is when folks silo; it sometimes costs less for developers to
> hack on things with a non-maintainable solution than it is to get a real
> solution in place in a [F]OSS project.
>

Nobody is resisting. I'm just saying I would argue with general public
benefit rather than with customers, I'm making profit from, lined up
and waiting for some change to happen.
Also, accepting or rejecting a patch is developers choice, not a duty.
Anyway, I understand argument. I even know [F]OSS became one big
business. Yet I would still choose to "lie" or plead with general
public benefit rather than my customers missing some feature :) But
hey, that's me.

[...]
>
>        There's indeed a process. Request maintainership via
> https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac , but make absolutely sure to contact the
> current admins and provide adequate documentation if they do not reply
> before approaching the SF admins.
>        <user>@users.sf.net is the dedicated email alias for each of the
> admins if you opt out of going through the SF forms.
>

Great.

>> And again, I'm surprised how nobody wants to take over and continue,
>> yet everybody cries for project to move forward.
>
>        Actively contributing to 1+ SF projects is more than enough for me.
> Wish I had more time because I actively use ipmitool. Probably the same
> could be said for others here as well.
>        Why not offer to become the project maintainer yourself :)?

My aim was at big corps, if it was not obvious.
As of not having enough time, I would say, it is anybody's wish to
have more time. I'm already maintaining ipmitool in its kind of way.
So sure. If you don't mind my lack of C experience, if you don't mind
it won't be backed up by corporation ... sure.

>[...]
>
>        Agreed -- hopefully the next set of maintainers can move the project
> forward and maybe use something like git (that's a wish.. not a stopgap
> feature).
> Thanks!
> -Garrett

Second it :)

Zdenek

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