And you're going to mandate source filtering on the first hop across the
entire internet, how?  It's a great idea and a best common practice but
not something that can be set by fiat.

Ed

On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Glenn Morrow wrote:

> Then again if source filtering is mandated on the first hop this might
> eliminate the need to do filtering on other hops and this would eliminate
> the need to do subnet translation or tunneling by either the MN or the MR.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Morrow, Glenn [RICH2:C330:EXCH] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 11:56 AM
> To: 'Michael Thomas'
> Cc: Michael Thomas; Thomas Eklund; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]';
> '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: Source addresses, DDoS prevention and ingress filtering
> 
> 
> Oh, I see what you were concerned about. It seems to me that an MR will have
> to tunnel or subnet translate unless it is on it's home subnet.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 9:49 AM
> To: Morrow, Glenn [RICH2:C330:EXCH]
> Cc: Michael Thomas; Thomas Eklund; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]';
> '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: Source addresses, DDoS prevention and ingress filtering
> 
> 
> Glenn Morrow writes:
>  > If the node behind the MR obtained its home address from the  the mobile
>  > router's subnet, then the MN will use this as the source i.e. the MN's
> home
>  > subnet is the MR's subnet.
> 
>    Right, but when the MR's upstream router does an
>    RPF check... it will drop the SN's packets.
> 
>  > Either way (tunneling or subnet translation), the topological correctness
> is
>  > still maintained.
> 
>    Well, that's sort of the problem. The SN doesn't
>    know that it's putting topologically incorrect
>    source address in the IP header.
> 
>                 Mike
> 


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