In your previous mail you wrote:

   > => the problem is not node or host, it is with a requirement you can find
   > and I can't find.
   
   Not nearly all cases of the IPv6 specification use "must" clauses, even
   though they are clearly required.
   
=> no, nothing without a MUST is clearly required. If I apply your
argument to RFC 791 IPv4 source route processing an forwarding is
mandatory for IPv4 hosts. RFC 2460 defines the processing rule,
it says *nothing* about any requirement for a node to forward a
source routed packet. As I said, RFC 2460 is not a IPv6 node
requirement document.

   >    Only problem with this is that I fail to see how you _really_ could
   >    identify mobile nodes?
   >
   > => I've suggested three different ways.
   
   Do you have more specific ideas how these could work?
   
   - Home address option: check if it exists (could be added by anyone, isn't
   enough)

=> I disagree, if you see an outgoing packet from C without home address H
you can decide to accept incoming packet to C with a source route to H.

   - Binding updates (requires state)

=> I can't see a problem with state!

   - Explicit negotiation (requires state to be exported from AAA to
   firewall)
   
=> same.

   >    Requiring state in the firewall for this is probably unacceptable.
   >
   > => yes, you need a statefull firewall but a stateless firewall is *not*
   > a real one, at least you may not say it is a good one (:-).
   
   Stateful firewall usually creates a SPOF, which may not be acceptable for
   multihoming solutions at least.
   
=> I am afraid that you have to accept a single-point-of-failure
if you'd like to get a high level of security. Note that for AAA
the state is not in the firewall, it is in the AAA system.

   > => no, the job of a router is to route <dot>
   
   There are different kinds of routers.  I agree with you when "core"
   routers are concerned, but "access routers" e.g. of a small-midsize
   company (not necessaily even classical "router hardware router") must be
   able to perform these checks.
   
=> I believe a router is a bad firewall (and a firewall a bad router).

   I don't like the idea that everyone should get a big, expensive stateful
   firewall

=> you are not required to pay a lot of money to get a good software (:-).

   if all you want is basic security and stateless access-lists.
   
=> you can't both ask for good security and propose in order to archieve
it basic security and known to be not enough tools.

Regards

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