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From: "Jim Bound" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pekka Savola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Robert Elz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ipngwg-dns-discovery-03.txt 


> Pekka,
> 
> What we do here is build standards.  That have no known bugs or
> interoperability problems.  What we don't do here is tell the market what
> they can and cannot deploy. We will build standards that support stateless
> and stateful mechanisms across the IPv6 spectrum, we will have
> translation, tunneling, and hybrids of such mechanisms.  Our job is to
> make sure they will work as best we can tell on paper and abstractly.  But
> it is not our job to tell the customer what to use in their networks.
> Besides they are not listening to us and never did in the first place
> except maybe for a few key pivotal points on the Internet like Address
> Registry debate and root DNS servers et al.
> 

The ICANN Board describes the IETF as their "Engineering Division".
"ICANN represents that it has no authority to implement new TLDs"
http://www.icann.org/tlds/correspondence/esi-v-icann-13nov00.htm 

ICANN and the IETF appear to be mostly focused on "experimental",
Proof-of-Concept, research projects. The new TLD deployments seem
to be mostly operational fiascos, years overdue, late, corrupted databases,
confused consumers, etc. There is little focus on serious, reliable, redundant
systems, etc. If there is a market, serious companies will deploy the needed
infrastructure, as the experiments draw people to the new TLDs.
http://www.dot-biz.com/Registry/Proof-Of-Concept

For people interested in building on IPv4...this may help...
http://www.dot-biz.com/IPv4/Tutorial/
The Netfilter Project: Packet Mangling for Linux 2.4
http://netfilter.samba.org

Jim Fleming
http://www.IPv8.info
IPv16....One Better !!

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