On Sun, 2 Dec 2001, Jim Bound wrote:
> I completely disagree with you.  The entire notion of worrying about the
> home agent address is overrated.  The reason is what most people will be
> doing is not needed to be secure anymore than when you call a friend on
> the telephone and tell them your bringing some beer over for the tele
> show.  This is what I believe 90% of the devices will be used for and on
> private cell networks not on the Big Internet.  

The issue is about Home Address Option, not Home Agent address.  Damn the 
abbreviations :-).  Or did you still mean Home Address?  If so, I 
recommend you read, at least cursorily:

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-savola-ipv6-rh-ha-security-01.txt

Thanks.

> On Sat, 1 Dec 2001, Pekka Savola wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 1 Dec 2001, Jari Arkko wrote:
> > > > The requirement that Home Address Option MUST be processed is nothing new; 
> > > > it's a requirement for every IPv6 node as currently being specified.
> > > 
> > > Right, and this was what we've stated in earlier versions of the draft. A
> > > note was, however, added to the latest version of our draft to indicate
> > > that the Mobile IP WG is presently discussing what to do with the Home
> > > Address Option and whether there are security issues in that as well
> > > (as there were other security issues in the Binding Update Option).
> > > 
> > > But frankly - as someone who wants to deploy zillions of these
> > > devices soon - we are somewhat unsure how to proceed regarding
> > > this issue. Since I know you Pekka were involved in the Home Address
> > > Option discussion, perhaps you could comment on where do you think
> > > the WG goes? Will it disallow the option unless accompanied by a
> > > Binding Cache Entry established securely earlier? Will it throw away
> > > the option and start to use tunneling? Or decide that there is no
> > > security issue? Or perhaps we can't yet say for sure?
> > 
> > It's too early to say how this will be tackled, but I think the risk of
> > completely unauthenticated Home Address options will be too high; it seems
> > probable it will have to restricted in some form or the other.  But it's
> > rather early yet.  Next revision of secreqs draft will add Home Address
> > option and Routing Header issues for consideration.  It seems likely the
> > wording will be "harsher" on the issue than before.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Pekka Savola                 "Tell me of difficulties surmounted,
> > Netcore Oy                   not those you stumble over and fall"
> > Systems. Networks. Security.  -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords
> > 
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