It's our responsibility as engineers to care. You can't
expect users to care, or even to understand why they are
getting poor results. Still less can you expect users to
know that they are being deprived of innovative new applications
because of the lack of e2e transparency.

   Brian

Christian de Larrinaga wrote:
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Moter Du
> Sent: 13 December 2001 08:32
> Subject: demand for end-to-end communication?
> 
> >For day-by-day communication (voice calls, video conferences, etc.), the
> indirect services seem have offered
> >VoIP solutions without further consume scarce address space.  I know
> indirect communication would expense
> >double bandwidth.  But, what if people just doesn't care?
> >Moter
> 
> IMO need space for both. unsure about bandwidth implication. users don't
> care until they get spiked.
> 
> christian
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