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From: "Robert Elz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> one.   So far, I see no evidence of harm at all - nothing more than
> queasiness at the thought of the network altering anything in a packet,
> even when the source host has said it is OK for it to be altered (I'm not
> sure how you cope with the hop limit field, or source routing).
> 

The "network" is defined by the boundary encompassing all interconnected
systems which exchange packets without changing fields required to make
the "network", the "network", as opposed to a "notwork". If someone or
some company starts changing fields and breaks the "network", then they are
not part of the "network".

IPNG is not IPv6 it is IPv4 with some extensions and changes that do not
break things. There will be many extensions and changes that do not break
anything, and the collection of extensions can be called IPv8. Even the 2002
extended addressing added to IPv4 via AAAA DNS triggers falls into the
IPv4++ or IPv8 C@tegory. All of the TOS, TTL, RIFRAF and other forms
of mangling fall into the IPv8 swamp.

For people wishing to send fields of data from one end of the "network" to
the other, without being changed, there are UDP and TCP formats for that.
You tuck the data inside and it generally does not get changed. If it does
get changed, then that system making the changes falls outside of the "network".
Those systems make up the "swamp", an unstable collection of stuff that
floats between the users and the "network".

At some point, people see the light and emerge from the swamp. They
interconnect. They do that to exchange traffic efficiently in mutually beneficial
locations. That forms another network which tends to be very stable and
something people are not connected directly to and which most people do
not touch. That is the high-ground called IPv16. Good luck in the swamp.


Jim Fleming
http://www.IPv8.info
IPv16....One Better !!
http://www.dot-biz.com/IPv4/Tutorial/
http://www.RepliGate.net
The Netfilter Project: Packet Mangling for Linux 2.4
http://netfilter.samba.org


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