Brian E Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Let's either clarify them, as in the one para summary that Tony Hain
> sent a few days ago, or simply write the field off as reserved, in which
> case IPv6 will have no advantage of IPv4 for QOS purposes.

I think the notion of making our protocols better for QoS purposes is
an admirable one. My problem is that I don't think anyone has well
demonstrated that the flow label *will* give us an advantage for QoS
purposes.  I understand the arguments. I just haven't seen anyone
step up with the crucial "we at large router vendor have done the
experiment and even though we have to reach into the packet anyway to
do tuple extraction having this in a percentage of the packets will
increase performance in this quantitative way."

I'll repeat (broken-record like), we've already deployed the end point
implementations in the field. We can't change those stacks at this
point.

By the way, as I've often said: the killer app for IPv6 is not QoS or
security or anything else -- all those can be achieved (though
sometimes with greater effort) in IPv4. The killer app for IPv6 is
having an internet again. The mere fact that any user of IPv6 can
reasonably expect to receive as well as to make connections, because
they have a globally routable address, is a profound change from
today's network in which the end to end principle is rapidly
disintegrating. It is, to use my standard metaphor, like a phone
network where most people can only call out -- hardly a good thing.

Or to put it another way, you can't connect to your home machine and
download that report you were working on the previous night but forgot
to bring with you if it is behind a NAT box on your cable
modem. That's why you need IPv6 -- so you'll have an internet, not
because it is better at QoS.

Perry
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