Pekka Nikander writes:
 > Michael Thomas wrote:
 > 
 > > So here's a most-likely crazy idea: why can't we
 > > treat the ingress filtering router like a CN which
 > > must first be sent a BU which it verifies in
 > > whatever manner the CN would? This already has a
 > > requirement to not be bound to mythical PKI's,
 > > etc. Given FMIP, the access routers are probably
 > > going to end up having to process things like BU's
 > > anyway.
 > 
 > 
 > I was drifting into this direction myself.  But how?
 > Introduce a new ICMP message saying: send me a BU
 > if you want to use HAO?

   Sounds good to me. This also takes care of the
   case where somebody has RPF checks running farther
   into the network. I would expect that a MN
   would always send the BU to its access router.
   Making this a MUST implement for a v6 router 
   would probably be a good thing too.

 > > Also: if we have ingress filtering taken care of
 > > directly, is there any reason to preserve the HAO
 > > at all? I thought its entire raison d'etre was to
 > > provide a means of coexisting with ingress
 > > filtering -- which we've already proven is just
 > > shifting the problem around instead of providing
 > > something useful.
 > 
 > Now THAT sounds like the most reasonable thing that
 > I have heard about ingress filtering for a long 
 > time!

   Heavens. Didn't mean to scare anybody :-)

 > To me, it seems like combinding RR and CGA, the
 > ingress filtering router can fairly easily determine
 > that the MN really "owns" the home address, and
 > thereafter pass it.  As an immediate reaction, the
 > only problem seems to be that CGA requires fairly
 > heavy CPU load.  Could RR be enough in this case,
 > since the CoA and HoA are on the different sides
 > of the router?

   I think that if RR is viable for anything, it's
   probably fine for lifting RPF checks. 

                 Mike
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