Mike, 

Just catching up on this thread, a couple of 
questions below.

  > So here's a most-likely crazy idea: why can't we
  > treat the ingress filtering router like a CN which
  > must first be sent a BU which it verifies in
  > whatever manner the CN would? This already has a
  > requirement to not be bound to mythical PKI's,
  > etc. Given FMIP, the access routers are probably
  > going to end up having to process things like BU's
  > anyway.

=> Let me understand what this would do: 
what happens after the MN sends a BU ? Does the 
default router look though each packet to verify 
the HAO ? 


  > 
  > Also: if we have ingress filtering taken care of
  > directly, is there any reason to preserve the HAO
  > at all? I thought its entire raison d'etre was to
  > provide a means of coexisting with ingress
  > filtering -- 

=> Well, no, it is a form of tunnelling, (combined
with RH) if you remove it you'd have to tunnel right ? 
I feel like I misunderstood a few things in your 
text. 

Hesham

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