It's fairly clear that architecturally, IPv4 and IPv6 are
at exactly the same place on this: the notions of identifier
and locator are 100% overlaid on each other. So in practical
terms - what can we do, and standardize, *today* - we simply
can't make the distinction. 

The IRTF NameSpace research group has been working inconclusively
on the architectural issue for a couple of years. See
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-irtf-nsrg-report-01.txt
for a snapshot.

imho it is best to disregard the philosophical side if you want
to make progress immediately. What's the practical issue with
embedding the home address in such a routing header?

  Brian


Pekka Nikander wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> Related to the debate on the mobile-ip list on whether
> MIPv6 should use Routing Header or some other mechanism
> to carry the home address to a mobile node that is
> away from home, I'd like to solicit for well grounded
> opinions on the intended semantics of the Routing Header.
> 
> To properly understand what I am really asking about we
> must first make a distinction between two logical
> entities, endpoints and locations.  In the current
> Internet architecture, both endpoints and locations are
> identified with a single mechanism, i.e. with IP addresses.
> However, they are conceptually different, as very well
> pointed out by Noel Chiappa in
> http://users.exis.net/~jnc/tech/endpoints.txt
> In essense, a communication endpoint is an active
> entity engadged in the communications, i.e. a party
> who consumes messages and generates new ones.  A location,
> on the other hand, is a topological "place" within the
> routing fabric.
> 
> Now, my question is fairly simple:  Is the meaning of
> the routing header to allow a packet to be sent through
> a number of communicating hosts (end-points) or via a
> specific path, identified by a set of locations?  Or
> is it both?
> 
> One way of pondering the question is to imagine that the
> endpoints and locations had different name spaces.  For
> example, you could imagine that each host has a flat
> name tag (HIT in HIP terminology), and the locations
> are named according to the routing hierarchy as today.
> Under such an architecture, would the routing header
> contain addresses or these new name tags, or could
> it contain a mixture of both?
> 
> The reason why I am asking this is the scenario, which
> Charlie Perkins has offered, where a packet is source
> routed through a Mobile Node that is away from home.
> According to his argumentation, in such case the
> routing header should have a route looking like
> 
>     .... - Care-of-Address - Home Address - ....
> 
> where the Care-of-Address is the current location of
> the mobile node, and the Home Address is more like
> the end-point identifier of the mobile node.  I am
> having hard time in clearly crasping the intended
> semantic meaning of this construction.
> 
> --Pekka Nikander
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