Hesham and authors cellular hosts draft,

I have to STRONGLY STRONGLY agree with Tony, Charlie, and Margaret,  You MUST limit 
the scope of this title and work before you can get folks to agree on technical 
consensus.
If you limit the scope the assumptions are limited (as Tony stated which I think 
Hesham missed in the dialogue I say objectively reading and parsing the debate).

This work is driven by 3GPP for time-to-market.  So I believe this work MUST be for 
3GPP.
We also need similar draft for 3GPP2 as Phil Roberts has stated and another point 
missed.

I am against a General Hosts requirments document but I will say why when someone 
issues such a draft.

I also think we need an 802.11 "use" document too.

The bottom line is as my dead mother used to say "don't try to stuff 5 pounds of shit, 
in a 1 pound bag, it won't work and break the bag and stink".

/jim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hesham Soliman (ERA) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 1:09 PM
> To: 'Charles E. Perkins'; Karim El-Malki (ERA)
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Should DAD be optional?
> [Wasdraft-ietf-ipv6-cellular-host-00.txt -> wg last call?]
> 
> 
>   > I have no problem with the words in your note, but then you
>   > have to rename the draft to be "IPv6-over-nearterm-3G", or
>   > better, "IPv6-over-3GPPr5-PDP".  That gets the point across.
>   > 
>   > If it's "IPv6-over-cellular", then you have to write
>   > the specification to apply to ALL cellular systems, current
>   > and future.  That was the point in my note you quoted.
> 
> 
> => Basically we're saying similar things in different
> ways. My note (hasn't made it to the list yet) 
> said that we addressed both of the above in the 
> draft. The secions titled 'X function in 3GPP'
> address the specifics. 
> It seems that there is some confusion about whether
> cellular == 3GPP. That's certainly not the case
> as it is explicitly stated in the draft. 
> So I do see the case for 2 documents, but the important
> issue right now is to have some agreement on 
> the technical content, then decide if it should
> be split into more than one document. 
> 
> Hesham
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