Hi All,

I've attached my comments on "IPv6 for Second and Third Generation Cellular Hosts" with
responses from John Loughney.  This came out of a more private discussion, but John and
I both thought it would be useful to send this to the whole list.

Margaret


>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Preview of IPv6 for Second and Third Generation Cellular Hosts 
>Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:42:40 +0300
>Margaret,
>
>I've been creating a list of issues raised here & possible resolutions - 
>I hope you send this (or a version) to the list so I can answer there.
>
>Trimming the recipient list ...
>
> > General Comment:  Document needs some text editing, particularly to 
> > eliminate run-on sentences and poorly formed paragraphs.
>
>Can do (I usually save this kind of editing for last ..)
>  
> > Technical Comments:
> > 
> > Section 1.1:
> > 
> > This section should explicitly state that this document is not
> > a standard and is not intended to modify the existing IPv6
> > standards.
>
>Will do.
>  
> > Section 2.1:
> > 
> > Path MTU discovery is a mechanism to save bandwidth, so it may
> > be very desireable to implement for cellular hosts.
>
>Will add text about this, suggesting this with comments.
>  
> > Section 2.4.1:  
> > 
> > Neighbor Solicitations and Neighbor Advertisements are not optional 
> > parts of Neighbor Discovery, and they should not be considered optional 
> > for cellular hosts.  Cellular hosts should implement all of the
> > required portions of ND, and use the state machine described in 
> > the ND specification.  If you really believe that these parts of
> > ND should be optional, then the ND spec should be re-visited.  We
> > should not just declare them optional here.
> > 
> > The link layer sub option is link-specific, and it is fine that it
> > does not apply to this type of link.
>
>This we need to add clarifying text as why we think using NA & NS may
>be optional in some cases.  Hopefully you can comment on this
>after we write the text.
>  
> > Section 2.5.1:
> > 
> > DAD is not an optional part of Stateless Address Autoconfiguration,
> > and it should not be considered optional for cellular hosts.
> > If you really believe that DAD should be optional for some link
> > types, we need to re-visit the Stateless Autoconfiguration spec.
> > We should not just declare DAD to be optional here.
>
>I think we (the authors) need to do some thinking on this, as there
>is the feeling that 2462 does not apply to the 3GPP network, but
>I guess you feel strongly that it does.
>  
> > Section 2.7.1:
> > 
> > The document says:
> > 
> >     "To avoid any duplication in link-local addresses 
> >     between the TE and the GGSN, the MT must always reject other 
> >     suggested interface identifiers by the TE. This results in the TE 
> >     always using the interface identifier suggested by the GGSN for its 
> >     link-local address."  
> > 
> > What does this mean?  I thought that laptops would be able
> > to generate privacy addresses using randomly allocated identifiers.
> > If not, we have a serious problem.  Is this done to avoid the
> > need for DAD?
>
>We may need to fix this text, I think it is not quite right.
>  
> > Section 2.11 (and 2.13):
> > 
> > The document says:
> > 
> >     "Cellular hosts should not support configured or automatic 
> >     tunnels to avoid unnecessary tunneling over the air interface."
> > 
> > Why would we want to make this recommendation?  There may be
> > good reasons for tunneling over the air interface.
>
>We need to fix the text, we intend to say that tunneling should be
>avoided, as it may waste bandwidth - especially if there are other
>mechanisms available.
>
> > Section 2.14:
> > 
> > The document says:
> > 
> >     "The Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol for IPv6 [DHCPv6] may be 
> >     used. DHCPv6 is not needed when IPv6 stateless 
> > autoconfiguration is 
> >     used, and no other functions of DHCPv6 are used."
> > 
> > I don't understand this paragraph.  Can a cellular host use DHCP
> > to get it address(es)?  I would think DHCP would only be useful on
> > a cellular host for other types of information.
>
>We will fix this, stating that DHCPv6 is not needed for stateless auto.
>config, but may be useful for configuring othyer types of info.
>  
>Thanks,
>John 


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