Hi Adam,

Thanks for the text, unfortunately, I received this mail after
I sent out the update.

It seems that you are suggesting Stateful Address Config is 
conditionally mandatory, and I think that I can agree with that.

John

> I was hoping for something a little more specific, helping to clear up just
> what an implementation needs in order to be conformant.  How does something
> like the following sound?
> 
> 4.4.5 Stateful Address Autoconfiguration
> 
> Stateful Address Autoconfiguration is conditionally mandatory.  For those
> IPv6 Nodes that implement a stateful configuration mechanism such as
> [DHCPv6], those nodes SHOULD/MUST initiatiate stateful address
> autoconfiguration upon the reciept of a Router Advertisement with the
> Managed address flag set.  In addition, as defined in [RFC2462], in the
> absence of a router, hosts that implement a stateful configuration
> mechanism such as [DHCPv6] MUST attempt to use stateful address
> autoconfiguration.
> 
> For IPv6 Nodes that do not implement the optional stateful configuration
> mechanisms such as [DHCPv6], the Managed Address flag of a Router
> Advertisement can be ignored.  Furthermore, in the absensce of a router,
> this type of node is not required to initiate stateful address
> autoconfiguration as specified in [RFC2462].
> 
> 
> Adam Machalek
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Hi  Adam,
> 
> Very  good point.� I have added the following text:
> 
> 
> 
> 4.5.5  Stateful Address Autoconfiguration
> 
> IPv6  Stateless Address Autoconfiguration [RFC2462] defines stateless
> address  autoconfiguation.� However, it does  state that in 
> the absence of
> routers, hosts must perform host MUST attempt to  use stateful
> autoconfiguration. �There is also reference to stateful  address
> autoconfiguration being defined elsewhere. Additionally, DHCP [DHCP]
> states that it is on option for stateful address autoconfiguation.
> 
> From  the current set of specification, it is not clear the level of
> support that is  needed for statefull Address Autoconfiguration.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Adam Machalek  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 21 June, 2002  18:52
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Stateful  Address Config - I-D
> ACTION:draft-ietf-ipv6-node-requirements-00.txt
> 
> 
> 
> John,
> 
> Section 5.4 on DHCPv6 states that DHCPv6 is unconditionally optional,
> which today implicitly makes Stateful Address config optional.
> 
> However, I'd like to see some direct  clarification in this 
> document on
> Stateful Address config, probably directly  after Section 
> 4.5.2 discussing
> Stateless Address config.
> 
> RFC2462 has some ambiguities, in  particular, it states "a 
> managed address
> configuration flag indicates whether  hosts should use stateful
> autoconfiguration", not SHOULD. � Later in 2462  in section 5.2 it
> continues this ambiguity by never explicitly using  MAY/SHOULD/MUST
> anywhere.
> 
> Still  later in section RFC2462 5.5.2 Absence of Router 
> Advertisements, it
> finally  states that in the absence of a router, a host MUST 
> attempt to use
> stateful  autoconfiguration.
> 
> And lastly, the  DHCPv6 draft states "DHCP is one vehicle to perform
> stateful  autoconfiguration", implying that there may be others.
> 
> So in the end, even with DHCPv6 optional, this doesn't  
> clarify exactly
> what a host should do about Stateful Address  autoconfiguration.
> 
> Adam  Machalek
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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