On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Margaret Wasserman wrote:
> In my opinion, there are three possible choices here:

There are two others:

        (0) Limit the scope of the IPv6 WG's problem, by
                forbidding the use of site-local addresses
                on globally-connected networks in the
                scoped addressing architecture and clarifying 
                it in the revised addrarch document.  This would
                not preclude work in this area by other
                groups within the IETF/IRTF, and we could
                remove the restriction when the implications
                are fully understood.

>       (1) Limit the scope of the IPv6 WG's problem, by
>               forbidding the use of site-local addresses
>               on globally-connected networks in the
>               scoped addressing architecture.  This would
>               not preclude work in this area by other
>               groups within the IETF/IRTF, and we could
>               remove the restriction when the implications
>               are fully understood.
> 
>       (2) Develop a complete solution for scoped unicast
>               addressing within the IPv6 WG.  This would
>               include solving the problems they cause for
>               all protocols/layers.
> 
>       (3) Define an IP-level solution for scoped addressing
>               (similar to what is currently in the scoped
>               addressing architecture), and consider all
>               of the implications of that architecture on
>               other protocols/layers to be someone else's
>               problem.

        (4) As 0) and 1) but kill all references to SL in
                addrarch-v3


> The first choice is both responsible and doable.

But it gives a totally wrong picture to a reader reading a revised edition
of addrarch.  So it's unclear.  0) is clear, responsible and doable.

4) is too rash action for now, I believe.
 
> I have deep concerns about the second choice, along two lines:
> (1) I think it is important that we stabilize and complete IPv6
> quickly, as folks are widely implementing and deploying it, and
> (2) I don't know that we have the expertise (in the IPv6 WG or
> anywhere in the IETF, without further research) to solve these
> problems.
> 
> And, in my opinion, the third choice (which is what we seem to
> be doing so far) is blatantly irresponsible.
> 
> Are there people who want to argue for choices #2 and/or #3?
> Or are there other choices that I've left out?

Yes.

I strongly urge for 0).  Some wording changes are required in 2.5.6 
second-last paragraph, and we may need to kill the last paragraph.

I'm not even sure if we could get addrarch to draft standard, have folks 
implemented these two:

--8<--
   Routers must not forward any packets with site-local source or
   destination addresses outside of the site.
--8<--

None of the implementations I use certainly haven't, and this has been 
around for a time now, even since RFC1884..

-- 
Pekka Savola                 "Tell me of difficulties surmounted,
Netcore Oy                   not those you stumble over and fall"
Systems. Networks. Security.  -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords




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