but even if we in San Fransisco would agree on a new routing model,
it would still take us at least 3-5 years to implement.
See the migration to BGP4 as example.
5 years is overly optimistic, IMHO.
Probably.

I say go for /48 PI space. Take a /16 (or something suitable) and
divide it per RIR, and use it as PI space.
This is way too risky. Potentially, 4 billion routes. I agree that we
The 4 billion routes is a figure out of thin air. Let's solve todays problems first, and the we start worrying about the future.

don't have a problem in the short term. Until we get to 50k routes
nobody cares.
I am more worried about ever reaching 1k, or 10k....

But, doing this would put research efforts to a halt. 10 years down the
On the contrary. It will buy us time and give us experience. I still argue that we are looking at solutions to a problem we still have not understood. I am not convinced that all DLS subscribers and PDAs won't PI space and multihoming. Multihoming comes at a cost. IPv6 in it self will come at a higher cost. Let's see who is willing to pay first.

road, suddenly we have 500k BGP 4+ and the Internet craps out. I don't
want to be the guy that recommended that we re-create the IPv4 swamp,
because this is exactly what we are talking about.
Yupp. That is the advantage. We can take the same policy, and learn. No need for implementations or arguments over assignment policy.

10 or 15 years ago, we gave away swamp space to anyone that wanted it
because nobody thought that it would ever have a scalability issue. 4
I wasn't around then, but from what I have been told and read I think everyone was very aware of the scaling issues. But decided to put them forward and buy time.

billion /48 prefixes in the global routing table, what do you call this?
I call it IPv6 swamp.
It is! No question, but do you want to wait 5+ years?

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