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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> Pekka Savola
> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 12:00 PM
> To: Vijayabhaskar A K
> Cc: 'Ralph Droms'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [dhcwg] Re: WG last call on
> draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-prefix-delegation-02.txt
> 
> 
> On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, Vijayabhaskar A K wrote:
> > > That is, the requesting router is in charge of all the 
> prefixes until
> > > they expire.  The robust requesting router implementation 
> will perform
> > > some sane refreshing of these bindings way before they 
> expire, even
> > > periodically.
> > > 
> > > Thus, I fail to see any reason why these values would have to be 
> > > communicated from the delegator.
> > 
> > Yes, I agree that the it can refresh the bindings at any periodic
> > intervals it want. But, what if the delegating router is dead
> > and not responding at all? 
> 
> Then it will try again a bit later and succeed.

The time "bit later" is well defined by DHCPv6 base architecture.

> 
> > Hence, dhcpv6 provides you with 
> > two values: 
> > T1 -> This is the time at which the requesting router starts 
> > contacting the delegating router for the renewal of the lease...
> > T2 -> If till the expiration of T2 it didn't get the response
> > from the delegating router, it can contact any available
> > dhcpv6 server to refresh its bindings.
> 
> Do you mean that similar T1 & T2 values are being used by 
> DHCP base spec?  
> In that case I guess it's ok, but otherwise, I still fail to see the 
> usability.

Yes, T1 and T2 values are being used in DHCPv6 base spec.

> 
> > Ofcourse, the requesting router can generate these values itself.
> > With DHCPv6 server sending T1 and T2 values, the requesting
> > router dont need to recalculate the values again and again..
> > Trust the DHCPv6 server, the values provided by it makes the
> > requesting router to refresh its bindings well before the expiry..
> 
> Well, typically the conventional wisdom is *not* to trust any 
> external 
> parties to any extent greater than necessary :-)

If you are able to trust the prefixes given by DHCPv6, then there will be
no harm in trusting the time values provided by it :-)

> 
> > > Prefix delegation by DHCP is not meant to be 
> > > all-purpose-zero-configuration tool for routers, I think.
> > > 
> > > This seems conflicting -- a fringe case which should not came up.
> > > 
> > > Better would be just require that the requesting router 
> will get a 
> > > delegation from all the ISP's for itself, and subnet accordingly.
> > > 
> > > If the following does not apply, it seems to me that there 
> > > must be routers 
> > > connected to the downstreaming interfaces -- which in turn 
> > > could perform 
> > > prefix delegation directly from the ISP, the first router 
> acting as a 
> > > relay.
> > > 
> > > Doesn't seem to be need for this..
> > 
> > Need not be. Simple case is Home networks, they dont afford to have
> > individual routers for every ISPs. They may need multiple ISPs 
> > for high availablity or some other reason. In this case, there will
> > be only one border router with mutiple appliances/nodes in the 
> > downstreaming interfaces, which may span in one or more links.
> > In this case, it needs to unique IA_PD for every ISP.
> 
> Seems a bit far-fetched, IMO, but ok..
> 
> > > Regardless of that, I'm not sure how the requesting router would
> > > discover more of these delegating routers -- how would they be
> > > connected?  Which kind of infrastructure would typically 
> be between
> > > requesting router and multiple delegating routers?
> > 
> > I beleive there will be unique dialup connection with each ISPs.
> 
> .. as above, I've yet to see dial-up routers deployed which 
> would have two 
> dial-out adapters and phone jacks, but ok..
> 
> -- 
> Pekka Savola                 "You each name yourselves king, yet the
> Netcore Oy                    kingdom bleeds."
> Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings
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