On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:

> After the today's decision with site local, is clear to me that we don't
> want to have NAT happening again ;-)
>
> We know that the people will do it anyway, but we must do an effort
> to avoid is as much as possible, and some ideas that could
> support this are:

IETF is big and strong, market[lace is  much bigger and much stronger, in
all previous collisions with market IETF did not fare well.

Note - I am note arguing that NAT will win - my point is that if people
want it the resistance is futile.


>
> 1) Clearly show the advantages of end-to-end and no NAT model.
> 2) Have the specs indicating that an IPv6 node (host/router, whatever) MUST NOT 
> support NAT or equivalent mechanisms. Any
> interoperability/conformance test must fail if you fail to agree with this 
> specification. This should be a clear sign for the
> manufacturers to avoid supporting NATs.
> 3) Indicate that if someone wants to keep using NAT, should do it with IPv4.
>
> I'm not sure if the rest agree and what is the correct document to say this,
> may be as part of the changes for the local-link
> deprecation ?
>
> Regards,
> Jordi

Thanks,

Aleksey

BTW, I prepared a draft which spells out NAT6, it is absolutely trivial
thing compaing to NAT4, so if somebody would want it, they would not
need any permissions.

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