Brian,

> If you are correct, exactly the same will happen with
> PA space.

[I assume that you are referring to jj's proposal]

In the "putting the RIRs out of business" dept, no (because LIRs would
still pay to obtain PA space).

In the "explosion of the routing table" dept, the risk is a lot lesser
for three reasons:

- No matter what the "guarantees" that a LIR would give about the
allocating permanently a block to a site, it still remains PA which
means that the incentive to get it routed globally is not nearly as
strong.

- NRENs and some other organizations will likely continue filtering long
PA prefixes.

- In case a LIR provides addresses and not transit, they will likely
blackhole the block they allocated to that purpose (because of economic
reasons, not because the IETF says so), making routing longer prefixes
within that block moot.
 

In other words:
- There is a strong and unfulfilled demand for globally routable PI.
- Neither Bob or jj's proposals are aimed at providing it. However,
- jj's proposal does not make it as globally routable PI. Simply does
not work. Yes it could eventually be perverted into that, but as the
"consumer" I am not buying it as a good enough PI solution.
- There is nothing that stands between Bob's proposal and the PI swamp
except an IETF edict that says "don't do it because it's the wrong thing
to do" which does not stand against any money argument.

As we have seen with the Elz appeal recently, it is none of the IETF's
business to prevent users to misconfigure networks nor to force vendors
to release products that can't be misconfigured.

Michel.


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