Dave,

If you are looking for stable identifiers for "stacks" (in the
terminolgy of draft-irtf-nsrg-report-09.txt) it seems unlikely
that an FQDN is a safe answer. FQDNs are (mis)used in many ways;
a name like www.example.com certainly doesn't identify a given IP stack
on a given interface on a given host and it may well resolve to 
different hosts at different times and places.

You could of course stretch this by a convention, but that would
give you FQDNs along the lines of

  v6.i3.h37.www.example.com

(the IPv6 stack on interface 3 of server 37 among all the servers pooled
to provide the service called www.example.com).

I don't see that this has any functional advantage over an IPv6 address
for that stack, and it introduces a DNS dependency for the transport layer.

   Brian

Dave Crocker wrote:
> 
> Honest.  I'm really sorry to have to send this query.
> 
> In looking over various archives and documents, on the matter of separating
> node address from node identifier, I have not been able to find or develop a
> clear summary of the reasons the identifier cannot be a domain name.
> 
> There are plenty of notes assuming that a new name space is needed. And there
> are plenty of statements that say a new name space is needed because it will
> make certain things better.
> 
> But I have not seen a clear summary of what will be made better nor a clear
> argument against using domain names, as the stable, public,
> address-independent end-point identifier.
> 
> I recall seeing a note from Christian Huitema that raised some interesting
> concerns about using domain names, but I haven't been able to recover it.
> 
> If the identifier is used only occasionally, such as at the start of an
> association and during occasional state changes, then it is acceptable to have
> the string be a bit long.  If it must be in every packet, clearly it needs to
> be short.  If the identifier needs to be in every packet, then why?
> 
> The string must be globally assigned only if it is needed for some sort of
> rendezvous or third-party validation effort.  Otherwise, the string can be
> local to the association context, in the manner of purpose-built keys.
> 
> So a new, global identifier space seems to be needed only if every packet is
> subject to some sort of rendezvous or third-party validation.
> 
> What am I missing?
> 
> /d
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