Hello,

On 5/31/09 1:19 AM, "Yaron Sheffer" wrote:

> I think we should *not* add this type. I don't see how a client and a
> gateway can agree on such a "locally meaningful name", without
> non-interoperable protocols (or configuration databases). And I don't think
> we should add this new concept, of all places, to the Redirect draft.

I don't see a consensus on this yet. Tero and Yoav would like to see this
new gateway id type.
 
> But of course we should reserve a portion of the new ID Type registry for
> private use.

Since new values can be assigned by "Expert Review" do we really need to set
aside space for private use? You can always request new assignments without
having to revise the RFC.

Vijay

> 
> Thanks,
> Yaron
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>> Vijay Devarapalli
>> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 0:51
>> To: Yoav Nir; Tero Kivinen
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [IPsec] Some comments about redirect
>> 
>> Ok.
>> 
>> Anyone else have any comments on including "4 - Locally Meaningful Name"?
>> 
>> Vijay
>> 
>> 
>> On 5/27/09 3:14 PM, "Yoav Nir" wrote:
>> 
>>> The client has to have a PAD that includes the gateways.
>>> 
>>> Our implementation has the client downloading the configuration (by a
>>> proprietary protocol) that includes the gateway names (and how to find
>> them -
>>> IP address or DNS name).  These gateway names can optionally be shown to
>> the
>>> user in the GUI.  In any case, the client is as aware of the names as
>> the
>>> gateways.
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: Vijay Devarapalli [[email protected]]
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 01:04
>>> To: Yoav Nir; Tero Kivinen
>>> Cc: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [IPsec] Some comments about redirect
>>> 
>>> Hi Yoav,
>>> 
>>> On 5/27/09 3:11 AM, "Yoav Nir" wrote:
>>> 
>>>> OK. In that case I would add to the initial registry
>>>> 
>>>>   4 - locally meaningful name
>>> 
>>> The client should be able to resolve this "locally meaningful name" to
>> an IP
>>> address to which it can initiate a new IKE_SA_INIT exchange. These
>> "locally
>>> meaningful names" might make sense to the pool of IKEv2 gateways, but
>> would
>>> it make sense to the client? How does the client figure out what the new
>> VPN
>>> gateway is?
>>> 
>>> Am I missing something?
>>> 
>>> Vijay
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> In our product, the gateways have "names" that appear both in the GUI
>> and the
>>>> configuration files (and logs). It's easier for them to fetch another
>>>> gateway's "object" by name than by IP address. Such a name could be
>> ASCII or
>>>> UTF-8.
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: Tero Kivinen [[email protected]]
>>> 
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