Chris' case is a little different, because he is willing to do some work to 
establish trust between the two administrative domains, so it's not really 
opportunistic (although doing it with OE might be a solution)

So there could be some "hub gateway" that could do the introducing, perhaps 
over IPsec or IKE. 

On the one hand, if DNS works and everybody already has a DNS resolver, it may 
be better to use that than to invent a new mechanism. OTOH if I didn't like 
inventing new mechanisms, I wouldn't be participating in the IETF.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Michael Richardson
Sent: 24 October 2011 16:01
To: [email protected]
Cc: Ulliott, Chris
Subject: Re: [IPsec] New -00 draft: Creating Large Scale Mesh VPNs Problem 
Statement


I was not intending to be, (I have no ticket as yet), but plans might change.
It seems like Chris has all of the requirements of OE, and there is all of the 
challenges.  IPv6 and homenet might well provide FDQNs for hosts, and a trusted 
path to update the reverse.

If DNS does not work for you, then you need another trusted introducer, and 
there have been many proposals out there for doing this kind of thing.  None of 
taken off and hit the elbow of exponential growth.

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