>>>>> "Mark" == Mark Boltz <[email protected]> writes:
    Mark> With all due respect to Cisco, the larger problem we're trying
    Mark> to address, is in part the fact that DMVPN and ACVPN are
    Mark> vendor specific implementations. And the goal of the
    Mark> implementation we're seeking is *large scale* P2P VPNs.  

Assume that they are available on a wide variety of platforms, what is
broken in the technology?

    Mark> Picture a hypothetical where a larger interest desires an
    Mark> IPsec VPN, in, say the airline industry. We're talking about
    Mark> several thousand aircraft from several manufacturers. All in

We've been through all of this 15 years ago with AIAG's ANX.

    Mark> Explain to me how the earlier discussion of DNSSEC, or any
    Mark> other supposed, " but we already have a solution" addresses
    Mark> that type of "large-scale, P2P VPN". And please do so in a
    Mark> standards-based, non-proprietary way, that accommodates
    Mark> 10,000+ gateways, independent of vendors, and won't take me 10
    Mark> years to configure. 

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