On Nov 29, 2011, at 2:38 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote:

> 
> On Nov 28, 2011, at 4:11 PM, Michael Ko wrote:
> 
>> I agree that discovery is one of the issues that should be explored.  Due to 
>> the dynamic nature, automated discovery is an important requirement for the 
>> user to set up a secure connection with an authorized network node.  For a 
>> direct end-to-end connection between two parties when both are located 
>> behind different NATs, TURN resorts to the use of publicly addressable 
>> rendezvous servers.  Can the existing proprietary vendor solutions discussed 
>> in the side meeting handle this situation?
> 
> When people here advocate for "discovery", what do they mean? Do you mean:
> 
> - hubs can receive information from the spokes about what addresses the spoke 
> gateways protect
> 
> - hubs can proactively go out and find spokes and then ask what addresses 
> each spoke gateway protects
> 
> - something else

I would define discovery something like this:

Node A (either a client or a gateway) has a packet bound for host 194.29.35.43. 
It asks "the universe" how to encrypt traffic to that host:
 - What is the address of the gateway protecting 194.29.35.43 (could be the 
host itself, or could be none)
 - What ID and credential (certificate or PSK) will the peer show
 - What ID and credential should I show
 - What other addresses does this gateway protect

In this discovery process, "the universe" could be a pre-configured hub (pretty 
much what the Cisco and Juniper solutions do), a special-use server (as in the 
architecture in Michael's presentation) or maybe the DNS. But all this data 
needs to be returned.

 

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