Hi,
     My understanding is that the notarized signature is carried by IKE. After 
IKE's procedure is done,
the following packet can be protected by IPsec(e.g. ESP).

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Yinxing Wei

在 2012-1-31,下午6:43,Dharmanandana Reddy Pothula 
<[email protected]> 写道:

> Hi Tricci,
>  
> Thanks for your explanation. I get your point why notarized signature 
> required, but my question is not about notarizing every packet. Let me ask my 
> question in different way, Is FAP sends notarized signature in every IPSec 
> packet to core network? As I understand from the draft that before accepting 
> every IPSec packet, core network validate the notarized signature. Where is 
> this notarized signature placed in every IPSec packet?
> Thanks,
> Dharmanandana Reddy Pothula
>  
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> Subject: Re: [IPsec] [IPSec]: New Version Notification for draft-zong-ipse 
> cme-ikev
>  
> Dear Dharmanandana, 
> 
> I hope that I address you correctly.  If not, please pardon my ignorance. 
> 
> As this week is spring festival, ZaiFeng is not available.  Hence, I would 
> like to respond to you on behalf of her.   
> 
> Could you please kind see my responses to you inline below.  Many thanks. 
> Tricci 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Dharmanandana Reddy 
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> 01/24/2012 04:04 AM
> 
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> Re: [IPsec] [IPSec]: New Version Notification for 
> draft-zong-ipsecme-ikev2-cpext4femto-00.txt
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> 
> 
> 
> Hi Zaifeng, 
>   
> I have following questions and concerns about your proposed solution "The FAP 
> will then send the FAP information together with the corresponding SeGW 
> notarized signature to its mobile operator's core network. The core network 
> verifies the FAP information by validating the SeGW notarized signature prior 
> to the acceptance of the information". 
> Is every ip packet carries SeGW notarized signature after server sends 
> notarized signature to the client? if not, what's the point in returning 
> notarized signature to the client? I believe yes, if so, It will increase 
> percentage of overhead per packet and may impact quality of real time voice 
> and video. 
> 
> Tricci > You ask a very legitimate question.  May be our draft is not clear 
> enough to explain the main motivation of this draft for target of the attack. 
>   
> 
> Tricci > The main concern is not about the attack for "unauthorized FAP" to 
> send any data to the mobile core network.  The main concern is about the 
> attack of the "unauthorized FAP" to send the "false" configuration 
> information (e.g. such as changing the FAP from "Closed" to become "O pen" 
> ;false" access control related information (e.g. allowing a 3GPP UE which is 
> supposed to be allowed to access the FAP and to have the access privileage to 
> the FAP - i.e. CSG info alteration, etc.).  Once the FAP's configuration and 
> access control management are authenticated via the support of the 
> notarization by the SeGW, then, the rest of the 3GPP UEs' access to the FAP 
> can follow the existing access control and UE-based 
> authentication/authorization procedures at the UE level's.   
> 
> Tricci > Of course, once the UE is authenticated and to allow access to the 
> FAP, whatever the UE sends is beyond the control of the FAP just as what is 
> happened today for any mobile device.  Isn't it?   
>   
> if every ip packet carries SeGW notarized signature, How and where this 
> signature carried inside ip packet? cations inside IPsec packet processing? 
> Is this processing happens outside of IPsec? is it outside scope of this 
> document? It would be great, if some of these aspects are addressed in the 
> draft. 
>   
> Tricci > Since I have already explained to you that, we are not proposing to 
> notarize every single packet sent by FAP.  Hence, I don't think that I need 
> to respond to your rest of the questions above.   
> 
> Tricci > THANK YOU for asking a good question.  Cheers. 
> 
> Thanks, 
>   
> Dharmanandana Reddy Pothula. 
>   
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