On Feb 13, 2012, at 10:23 PM, Paul Wouters wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> There are many IPsec related standards, and I was hoping to use the 
> combined experience of the list to tell me if in fact, these new apple 
> devices have a bug, or whether it is an RFC or draft anywhere.
> 
> When using L2TP/IPsec mode with IKEv1, the latest iphones/OSX machines, 
> when on public IP, and when no NAT is detected, send UDP_ENCAP packets 
> where the inner IP is the same as the outer IP.
> 
> On the server, this is a problem. We now need to build tunnels to a 
> random publicly addressable IP. Since that is dangerous and could be 
> hijacking a real IP address, openwan only limits per default to RFC1918 
> space (and 25/8 since too many North American telco's use this and the 
> UK MoD seems to not care). As a result, to make this work, we need to 
> allow basically any public IP to be tunnelled.
> 
> Is this indeed a bug in these devices? If so, is there anyone from Apple 
> here that I can talk to and resolve this. Or if this is a 
> feature/draft/rfc, could someone point me to it?

Hi Paul

I'm not sure I follow you. L2TP/IPSec uses transport mode ESP, so the inner IP 
is inside the L2TP tunnel. That address is assigned in the IPCP protocol by 
your gateway.

So you have a routable address on the outside, and your own chosen address on 
the inside. 

So what is the issue?

Yoav
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