excellent.  Thank you both for resolving my comments so rapidly!

Lou

On 12/17/2012 1:43 PM, Brian Weis wrote:
> 
> On Dec 16, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Lou Berger <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Brian,
>>      Just want to confirm that Vishwas solution closes this issue.  Agreed?
> 
> Agreed!
> 
> Thanks,
> Brian
> 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lou
>>
>> On 12/14/2012 4:56 PM, Brian Weis wrote:
>>> Hi Lou,
>>>
>>> On Dec 14, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Lou Berger <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Brian,
>>>>    Opps, should have replied to this message (and not the prior).
>>>>
>>>> My previous mail basically said the new requirement is placed on the
>>>> ADVPN solution, not a particular implementation.  I think it's important
>>>> to ensure that the overall solution provides for Requirement 14, and I'm
>>>> not sure how this can be done without a requirement.
>>>
>>> If I understand correctly, these requirements are intending to be relevant 
>>> to "ADVPN solutions" that don't include network infrastructure. It doesn't 
>>> make sense to me to make a "ADVPN solution" implemented on PCs and 
>>> comprised exclusively of PCs subject to this as a general requirement.
>>>
>>> All other MUST requirements in Section 4 seem to apply equally to all use 
>>> cases.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> See below for additional specific responses.
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>>> Lou, would something like the following text in Section 2.2 be a
>>>>> satisfactory replacement for Requirement 14?
>>>>>
>>>>>   There is also the case when L3VPNs operate over IPsec Tunnels, 
>>>>>   for example Provider Edge (PE) based VPN's. An AD VPN must
>>>>>   support L3VPN as an application protected by the IPsec
>>>>>   Tunnels.
>>>>
>>>> it he must was a MUST, sure.
>>>
>>> I'd happily support a MUST here. There aren't any other MUSTs outside of 
>>> Section 4, but I don't know why.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Brian
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lou
>>>
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