Hi David,

In the new version (version 1) of the draft, unlike IKEv2 control packets the 
data packets are not acknowledged and hence the comments on congestion and 
windowing no longer apply.

Thanks,
-Amjad

-----Original Message-----
From: IPsec [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Black, David
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 3:58 AM
To: Rajeshwar Singh Jenwar (rsj); IPsecme WG ([email protected])
Subject: Re: [IPsec] New Version Notification for 
draft-amjads-ipsecme-ikev2-data-channel-01.txt

Well, Joe Touch's comments on congestion still apply:

http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipsec/current/msg08654.html

I suggest consulting RFC 5405 on this topic, and applying its guidance.

Thanks,
--David

> -----Original Message-----
> From: IPsec [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rajeshwar 
> Singh Jenwar (rsj)
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 10:27 PM
> To: IPsecme WG ([email protected])
> Subject: [IPsec] FW: New Version Notification for 
> draft-amjads-ipsecme-ikev2- data-channel-01.txt
> 
> Hi,
> 
> We (Amjad and I) have published new version of "Data over IKEv2 for 
> application security" draft based on inputs/comments received.
> Please review and provide comments/inputs/questions.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Raj
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 5:13 PM
> To: Amjad Inamdar (amjads); Rajeshwar Singh Jenwar (rsj); Rajeshwar 
> Singh Jenwar (rsj); Amjad Inamdar (amjads)
> Subject: New Version Notification for 
> draft-amjads-ipsecme-ikev2-data-channel-
> 01.txt
> 
> 
> A new version of I-D, draft-amjads-ipsecme-ikev2-data-channel-01.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Amjad S. Inamdar and posted to the 
> IETF repository.
> 
> Name:         draft-amjads-ipsecme-ikev2-data-channel
> Revision:     01
> Title:                IKEv2 based lightweight secure data communication draft-
> amjads-ipsecme-ikev2-data-channel-01 (D-IKE)
> Document date:        2014-03-12
> Group:                Individual Submission
> Pages:                15
> URL:            http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-amjads-ipsecme-
> ikev2-data-channel-01.txt
> Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-amjads-ipsecme-ikev2-
> data-channel/
> Htmlized:       http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-amjads-ipsecme-ikev2-data-
> channel-01
> Diff:           http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-amjads-ipsecme-ikev2-
> data-channel-01
> 
> Abstract:
>    The Internet Key Exchange (IKEv2) protocol provides authentication,
>    confidentiality, integrity, data-origin authentication and anti-
>    replay.  Currently, IKEv2 is mainly used as a control channel to
>    negotiate IPsec SA(s).  IPsec is not well suited to provide transport
>    layer security for applications as it resides at the network layer
>    and most of the IPsec implementations require integration into
>    operating systems making it difficult to deploy.  IPsec uses
>    different sessions for control and data traffic which is not NAT and
>    load balancer friendly.  TLS/DTLS, the other popular security
>    mechanism to provide the above security services does not mandate
>    mutual peer authentication and Diffie Hellman exchange.
> 
>    This document describes an IKEv2 based lightweight secure data
>    communication protocol and a way to provide transport layer security
>    for UDP client/server applications.  The protocol provides integrity
>    protected encryption and integrity-only protection based on
>    application needs.  As most of the IoT applications are UDP based,
>    IKEv2 can be used for key management as well secure data
>    communication in IoT due to its simplicity, scalability,
>    lightweightedness and ease of deployment.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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