Hi Paul,

I click send too quickly. I agree that providing the minimal description
for ESP and IKEv2 is useful, however Diet-ESP and minimal implementations
have different goals.

BR,
Daniel

On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 5:08 AM, Daniel Migault <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Paul,
>
> The bare minimal implementation of IKEv2 and IPsec/ESP have been proposed
> in lwig WG: draft-ietf-lwig-ikev2-minimal-01.txt
> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lwig-ikev2-minimal-01> and
> draft-mglt-lwig-minimal-esp-01.txt
> <http://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-mglt-lwig-minimal-esp-01.txt>
>
> Diet-ESP is definitely not "tweaking a byte here and there". Instead, it
> combines ROHC ROHCoverIPsec and IPsec/ESP. This provides the necessary
> flexibility to provide the appropriated security in any situation.
>
> I appreciate you provide feed back, however, I need more technical
> argument to make you less nervous.
>
> BR,
> Daniel
>
> BR,
> Daniel
>
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 7:32 PM, Paul Wouters <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 17 Feb 2015, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
>>
>>  If there is indeed a need for IPsec ESP use in IoT then I am not sure
>>> that the proposed optimizations are so useful given the impact for
>>> security.
>>>
>>
>> I agree. I think it would be very useful to describe a barebones minimal
>> IKEv2 feature set and even an ESP minimal set for such use, but tweaking
>> a byte here and there of the ESP protocol parameters makes we very
>> nervous.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Migault
> Ericsson
>



-- 
Daniel Migault
Ericsson
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