Roaming user is behind the edge router.
Control of issuing address is in edge router.
Edge router may issue a public IP when NAT is not configured, later NAT 
configured, but IP is not changed immediately.

Thanks
Jyothi



-----Original Message-----
From: Tero Kivinen [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 2:34 PM
To: Vemulapalli Jyothi-B37784
Cc: Suram Chandra Sekhar-B38523; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [IPsec] FW: New Version Notification for 
draft-suram-dynamic-nat-traversal-00.txt

[email protected] writes:
> Hi,
> 
> Very sorry for the late reply.
> 
> We have considered roaming VPN client scenario where MOBIKE may not be 
> required,

So you do not want to implement already standardized protocol to solve the 
issue, and want to create new extension to solve partial issue? 

> NAT can be enabled or disabled any time due to administrative reasons.

And how is that supposed to work.

If I have network described in the draft:

   +-+-+-+-+     +-+-+-+-+ IPsec    +-+-+-+-+
   |Roaming|     |Edge   | tunnel   |Corp   |     Protected
   | User  |<--->|Router |<========>|Gateway|<--> network
   +-+-+-+-+     +-+-+-+-+          +-+-+-+-+
         198.    198.   130.        133.
         51.     51.    233.        42.
         100.    100.   208.        11.
         22      1      1           1

I.e. Roaming user has public IP-address of 192.51.100.22, and its default 
gateway is 192.51.100.1, and it uses that to connect to the corporate gateway 
at ip-address 133.42.11.1.

The roaming user already has public routable IP-address which it can use to 
connect to internet. What benefits you get by suddenly NAT:ing it to some other 
public routable IP-address? The normal reason for NAT is to provide ability to 
have multiple user sharing the same IP address, but if roaming user already has 
public routable IP-address, there is no need for that.

I do not really see what you are trying to do here, what is the reason for 
this, and why it would ever be useful to add NAT for public routable IP-address 
because of some adminstrative reasons? I.e. what are those adminstrative 
reasons?

In normal case when you add NAT there in the middle, the roaming user will 
loose its public IP-address, and then network will then be:


   +-+-+-+-+     +-+-+-+-+ IPsec    +-+-+-+-+
   |Roaming|     |Edge   | tunnel   |Corp   |     Protected
   | User  |<--->|Router |<========>|Gateway|<--> network
   +-+-+-+-+     +-+-+-+-+          +-+-+-+-+
         10.     10.    130.        133.
         1.      1.     233.        42.
         1.      1.     208.        11.
         22      1      1           1

and that is again the case which MOBIKE was specified to solve. 
--
[email protected]

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