I thought the way we usually do this, is to have milestones with a timeline and 
have a sentence saying: When these milestones have been reached the working 
group will recharter or close.

Given the planned work and the rather near-time date, I can already say that 
they have to extend this date which in this case means a full recharter and 
processing. While updating milestones can be done by the chairs.

Mirja


> Am 01.09.2016 um 03:39 schrieb Kathleen Moriarty 
> <[email protected]>:
> 
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 6:05 PM, Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> That’s actually a good point that I forgot to mention as well. Actually my 
>> question is, why is this limited needed at all?
> 
> The WG has had this in their charter for some time.  The previous
> chairs with the WG have wanted to keep a window set since this is a
> maintenance WG as a way to prevent it from living on beyond it's
> usefulness.  They believe that it's okay to shutdown the WG if it
> dwindles and would like to have ways to determine if that is
> necessary.  They are also fine with a temporary closing to then reopen
> as another follow on effort.  This is a follow on WG itself after the
> original WG responsible for IPsec had closed for a few years.
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 31.08.2016 um 21:36 schrieb Alissa Cooper <[email protected]>:
>>> 
>>> Alissa Cooper has entered the following ballot position for
>>> charter-ietf-ipsecme-10-00: No Objection
>>> 
>>> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all
>>> email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this
>>> introductory paragraph, however.)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-ipsecme/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> COMMENT:
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> This seems like a lot of documents for a 16-month window based on this
>>> group's past publication rate. Good to be ambitious, but I'm just
>>> wondering how realistic this is.
> 
> Yes, it's ambitious.  I'll leave that to the chairs to respond.  In
> the past they have tried to keep the date to a reasonable one to
> complete work or to close if the WG became too inactive since it's
> along-standing one.  It has gotten some new life recently, so I don't
> expect this WG to close too soon.
> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Best regards,
> Kathleen
> 

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