Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer) <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> Michael Richardson writes: > > - Authentication; if someone with a
    >> Quantum Computer can break the DH > > in real time, do we care if he
    >> can act as a man-in-the-middle?  Scott > > Fluhrer: not important
    >> Michael Richardson: important, provided that we > > don't run into the
    >> same issues that IKEv1 PSKs ran into Tommy Pauly: > > not important
    >> Valery Smylsov: this would be nice to have Oscar > > Garcia-Morchon:
    >> this would be nice to have
    >> >
    >> > I'm very concerned that we don't wind up with insecure Group PSKs as
    >> > we had with IKEv1.
    >> 
    >> As this document is written (or how I think it is written, as I have
    >> not yet had time to read the latest version), the PPK used to provide
    >> to quantum resistance is not used in the authentication, there is
    >> still normal IKEv2 authentication step using normal IKEv2 shared
    >> secret, or certificates. So even if the people would be using group
    >> PPK, that would not allow similar issues than what happend with IKEv1.

    > That is correct; we do not replace the existing privacy and
    > authentication features; instead, we supplement them by adding the PPK;
    > this PPK is designed to add Quantum Resistance; however at the worse
    > (e.g. you use the 'MakeMeTastyGoat' PPK), you still have the
    > privacy/authentication security found that IKE provides.

Thank you for this clarification.


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