Hi Valery,

Many thanks for providing the charter text on making IKEv2 post quantum key 
ready.

Could we add another sentence to it so that it reads as follows:

Postquantum Cryptography brings new key exchange methods. Most of
these methods that are known to date have much larger public keys then
conventional Diffie-Hellman public keys. Direct using these methods in
IKEv2 might lead to a number of problems due to the increased size of
initial IKEv2 messages. The working group will analyze the possible
problems and develop a solution, that will make adding Postquantum key
exchange methods more easy. The solution will allow post quantum key 
exchange to be performed in parallel with the existing Diffie-Hellman key 
exchange. 

Best regards,
CJ



> On 2 Nov 2017, at 16:04, Tero Kivinen <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I have now received following items for consideration for charter
> (includes old items not finished in the current charter):
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> IKEv1 using shared secret authentication was partially resistant to
> quantum computers. IKEv2 removed this feature to make the protocol
> more usable. The working group will add a mode to IKEv2 or otherwise
> modify IKEv2 to have similar quantum resistant properties than IKEv1
> had.
> 
> Split-DNS is a common configuration for VPN deployments, in which
> only one or a few private DNS domains are accessible and resolvable
> via the tunnel. Adding new configuration attributes to IKEv2 for
> configuring Split-DNS would allow more deployments to adopt IKEv2.
> This configuration should also allow verification of the domains using
> DNSSEC. Working group will specify needed configuration attributes for
> IKEv2.
> 
> Currently, widely used counter mode based ciphers send both the ESP
> sequence number and IV in form of counter, as they are very
> commonly the same. There has been interest to work on a document that will
> compress the packet and derive IV from the sequence number instead of
> sending it in separate field. The working group will specify how this
> compression can be negotiated in the IKEv2, and specify how the
> encryption algorithm and ESP format is used in this case.
> 
> The Group Domain of Interpretation (GDOI - RFC 6407) is an IKEv1-based
> protocol for negotiating group keys for both multicast and unicast
> uses. The Working Group will develop an IKEv2-based alternative that
> will include cryptographic updates. A possible starting point is
> draft-yeung-g-ikev2
> 
> MOBIKE protocol [RFC4555] is used to move existing IKE/IPsec SA from
> one IP address to another. However, in MOBIKE it is the initiator of
> the IKE SA (i.e. remote access client) that controls this process. If
> there are several responders each having own IP address and acting
> together as a load sharing cluster, then it is desirable for them to
> have ability to request initiator to switch to a particular member.
> The working group will analyze the possibility to extend MOBIKE
> protocol or to develop new IKE extension that will allow to build load
> sharing clusters in an interoperable way.
> 
> Postquantum Cryptography brings new key exchange methods. Most of
> these methods that are known to date have much larger public keys then
> conventional Diffie-Hellman public keys. Direct using these methods in
> IKEv2 might lead to a number of problems due to the increased size of
> initial IKEv2 messages. The working group will analyze the possible
> problems and develop a solution, that will make adding Postquantum key
> exchange methods more easy.
> 
> A growing number of use cases for constraint network - but not limited to -
> have shown interest in reducing ESP (resp. IKEv2) overhead by compressing ESP
> (resp IKEv2) fields. The WG will define extensions of ESP and IKEv2 to enable
> ESP header compression.
> 
> draft-mglt-ipsecme-diet-esp and draft-mglt-ipsecme-ikev2-diet-esp-extension
> are expected to be good starting points for ESP compression.
> draft-smyslov-ipsecme-ikev2-compression and
> draft-smyslov-ipsecme-ikev2-compact are good starting point for IKEv2
> compression.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> There was also some other suggestions but there was no suitable text
> for charter for them, so if people want them to be considered, provide
> text.
> 
> Did I catch everything else properly?
> 
> We will be working on these items in the mailing list next week and
> most likely during signapore session too.
> -- 
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