I'd like to put the topic PFS up for discussion, since section 3.5 Child SAs 
contains some (to cite Scott) weasel words.

Obviously, in order to  achieve PFS in the sense of PQ security, we need to 
perform at least one PQ key exchange for Child SAs. At this point of the 
protocol, the peers already know if both of them support PQ algorithms, so 
backwards compatibility should not be an issue. Furthermore, as the 
CREATE_CHILD_SA exchange is already encrypted and IKE fragmentation could be 
used, you could simply include further (PQ) KE payloads in the message.
I don't think that it is necessary to negotiate the PQ key exchange algorithms 
again. This would introduce more complexity. Instead you could restrict the PQ 
algorithms to the ones already negotiated in the IKE_AUX exchange.

Any thoughts?

Leonie

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