Gorry Fairhurst has entered the following ballot position for
draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-qr-alt-08: No Objection

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Thanks for producing this I-D for IKE. I really found it helpful to understand
how this could work and to explain the new method.

I have two comments that I really think ought to be considered before
progression (but which I do not need to DISCUSS:

(1) Please consider whether this ought to use RFC-2119 language, as /MAY/, it
could be a protocol action (you or the responsbile AD will know best): "If this
is inappropriate for the initiator, it may immediately delete this SA."

(2) Appendix A contains a RFC 2119 keyword: /MAY/. I do not think this is
normal to use keywords on appendices (you or the responsbile AD will know
best), please consider using a lower case /may/ or simply explain it is an
/alternative/.

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I stumbled several times for non-technical reasons when reading, and therefore
I have a few comments that I hope will allow others to also easilly read this
useful I-D, for which I have tried to suggest new wording:

Abstract:
"way to get protection" - the word "get" seems to read strange to me, could you
consider using "provide" or soemthing similar? "but protects the initial IKEv2
SA too", could be "but also protects the initial IKEv2 SA."

Introduction:
"At the time this extension was being developed, it was a consensus in the
IPsecME WG that it is the IPsec traffic the one that mostly needs to be
protected.", could be: "At the time this extension was being developed, the
consensus in the IPsecME WG was to specify protection for the IPsec traffic."
"However, in some situations it is desirable to have this protection for IKE
SA", include /the/: "However, in some situations it is desirable to have this
protection for the IKE SA". "An example of such situation is Group", include
/a/ and /the/: "An example of such a situation is the Group" "In this protocol
group policy and session keys are transferred from Group Controller/Key Server
(GCKS) to Group Members (GM) immediately once an initial IKE SA is created. ",
include /a/ and /the/: "In this protocol, group policy and session keys are
immediately transferred from a Group Controller/Key Server (GCKS) to the Group
Members (GM) once  an initial IKE SA is created."

Spec:
"then the responder MUST return NO_PROPOSAL_CHOSEN notification.", include /a/?
"then the responder MUST return a NO_PROPOSAL_CHOSEN notification." "If the
negotiation was successful, the initiator includes one or more PPK_IDENTITY_KEY
notification containing PPK identities the initiator believes are appropriate
for the IKE SA being created, into the IKE_INTERMEDIATE request.", could be:
"If the negotiation was successful, the initiator includes one or more
PPK_IDENTITY_KEY notifications into the IKE_INTERMEDIATE request, containing
the PPK identities that the initiator believes are appropriate for the IKE SA
being created." Bullet 1&3:"If the responder is configured with one of the PPKs
which IDs were sent by the initiator and this PPK matches the initiator's",
seems hard to parse, maybe /with an ID that was sent/ ... or something similar?
(the same comment applies to bullet 3). Bullet 2:"has some of proposed PPKs",
include /the/: "has some of the proposed PPKs"

"In case the responder", could be: "In the case that a responder"



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