Nick, I would expect the response will be silence. Since the current RBL 
methods are not currently operational with IPv6 due to design issues and that 
IPv4 reputation is a large part of anti-spam, there is a fundamental difference 
currently between the two protocols. As IPv6 smtp ramps up, I would expect more 
to move to Googles direction than vice versa. The idea that you will be able to 
send email from an IPv6 address without rDNS, SPF and DKIM and have it end up 
in anything other than the spam folder is a pipe dream. Hell, I helped a friend 
that was running a hosted domain with only IPv4 and he had difficulty getting 
email delivered to corporate emails systems without SPF/DKIM. The SMTP world is 
changing, I doubt it is going to go back.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nick 
Hilliard
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 11:37 AM
To: Lorenzo Colitti
Cc: IPv6 Ops list; Marco d'Itri; Jared Mauch
Subject: Re: SMTP over IPv6 : gmail classifying nearly all IPv6 mail as spam 
since 20140818

On 22 Aug 2014, at 20:26, Lorenzo Colitti <[email protected]> wrote:
> What specifically would you like me to pass on? "Dear gmail team, can you 
> please publicly present data on IPv4 spam vs IPv6 spam in order to justify 
> your documented policy?" ?

How about: "Dear gmail team, v6 mta operators have noticed that there is a 
substantial difference between how spam detection is handled for ipv4 and ipv6 
connections and this appears to be causing problems with high rates of false 
positives on v6 sessions. These problems appear to be specific to gmail and are 
not seen with connections to other major mail operators. Where SPF/dkim are not 
feasible/possible, this causes people to either implement gmail specific hacks 
or else disable ipv6. Both these workarounds act against the interests of both 
Google and the internet at large. Can you please reach out to the ipv6 operator 
community about this?"

?

Nick

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