* Jeroen Massar > On 2014-11-08 11:34, Tore Anderson wrote: > > * Jeroen Massar > > > >> On 2014-11-08 10:27, Yannis Nikolopoulos wrote: > >> [..] > >>> the short story here is that we're (finally) enabling IPv6 on our > >>> (already capable) CPEs :) > >> > >> And then getting broken connectivity to Google: > >> > >> https://www.sixxs.net/forum/?msg=general-12626989 > >> https://forums.he.net/index.php?topic=3281.0 > > > > Non sequitur. I'd be extremely interesting in understanding how > > Yannis' IPv6 deployment in OTE (kudos!) could possibly impact the > > SixXS/HE tunnel users' ability to contact Google. > > That is not what I wrote or intended. > > Something unrelated to their deployment broke. But doing the > deployment does mean that you are now providing connectivity that > breaks to two major providers: Google and Akamai.
I still do not follow. Is (or were) OTE's deployment broken? If yes, is the reason for the brokenness the same as for the SixXS/HE users? (Is OTE using 6RD?) If no, what is the connection between OTE's deployment and the SixXS/HE problems you linked to? > Tunnels do not suck, people who have broken clusters that randomly > drop packets suck. Let me rephrase: PMTUD sucks. Tunnels suck by association, because they rely on PMTUD not sucking. (Except where the tunnel can accomodate an inner MTU of 1500.) > Note that even with a full 1500 MTU you will have > broken connectivity to Google at the moment, lots of fun thus for > those native deployments like Unitymedia who forcefully stuff folks > in DSlite land. This is news to me, both Google and Akamai works just fine from here in Norway. Could you elaborate on what broke and how I could try to reproduce it? Tore
