Hi Lorenzo,

Op 9 nov. 2014, om 22:10 heeft Lorenzo Colitti <[email protected]> het 
volgende geschreven:
> On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 11:48 PM, Jeroen Massar <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The issue with IPv6 access to Google should now be resolved.  Please let
>> us know if you're still having problems.
>> 
>> The fun question of course is: what/why/how the heck happened?
> 
> Another fun question is why folks are relying on PMTUD instead of adjusting 
> their MTU settings (e.g., via RAs). But relying on PMTUD still imposes a 
> 1-RTT penalty on every TCP connection to an IPv6 address you haven't talked 
> to in the last few minutes. Why would you do that to your connection?

I guess most users wouldn't really notice a 1-RTT delay. But I agree that it is 
less than optimal that every outbound connection from a network behind a 
non-1500-MTU link has to suffer this penalty. Unfortunately the current choices 
seem to be to either limit the link MTU (and making traffic to e.g. the local 
NAS suffer as well) or suffer the 1-RTT penalty.

> As to what happened: what happened here is that some Google servers 
> temporarily stopped doing MSS clamping. That was an outage, and AIUI it has 
> since been fixed. (Some parts of) Google infrastructure do not do PMTUD for 
> the latency reasons above and for reasons similar to those listed in 
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-v6ops-jaeggli-pmtud-ecmp-problem-00 .

Thank you for the information. Great to have real data instead of guesses and 
speculation :)

Cheers!
Sander

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