Agreed 100% - to it's credit Comcast does that on the -working- CPE devices as far as I can tell...

Ted

On 4/24/2016 5:49 PM, Brzozowski, John Jason wrote:
Operators MUST no advertise DNS server IPv6 addresses if they do not
work.  The fix is simple.  I would like to see as much happening over
IPv6 as possible, the last thing I really want to see is more happy
(happier) eye ball implementations.

On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 8:35 PM, Lorenzo Colitti <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Android does not behave well when configured with IPv6 DNS servers
    that do not work. This is because it prefers IPv6, does not (yet)
    ignore unresponsive DNS servers, and has quite high resolver timeouts.

    One infamous example is a German ISP whose CPE announces an IPv6
    address in RDNSS but never responds to queries to that address.
    Perhaps because no other operating system has a problem in this
    situation, the ISP has not fixed this, and users have been blaming
    Android. This is by no means the only case, though. Some of you know
    who you are :)

    Future Android releases will likely ignore broken DNS servers. This
    is unfortunate; we'd hoped that ISPs that provision devices with
    IPv6 connectivity would be able to ensure that the DNS servers are
    responsive and that as IPv6 matured this problem would go away.
    Unfortunately it has not.

    As Erik said, the way to debug this problem would be to have someone
    running 6.0.1 on voo to run "adb shell dumpsys connectivity --diag"
    and open a bug as described at
    https://source.android.com/source/report-bugs.html .

    On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 11:21 PM, Brzozowski, John Jason
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Android is properly trying to query DNS over IPv6 unlike other
        devices/OSes.  Most other mobile platforms still prefer the
        querying of DNS over IPv4 for A/AAAA RR query types.

        On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            Jeroen, Erik and John,

            Thanks for the hint. I will advise the ISP to investigate
            any DNS issue (such as not returning an error message when
            requesting a non-existing AAAA) but I wonder why it is
            linked to that specific Android Marshmallow version.

            -éric

            From: <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> on
            behalf of "Brzozowski, John Jason" <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>>
            Date: Sunday 24 April 2016 at 16:01
            To: Erik Kline <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
            Cc: Jeroen Massar <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>>, IPv6 Ops list
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
            Subject: Re: Slow WiFi with Android Marshmallow & IPv6?

                My customers saw this issue at one point.  We had issues
                with DNS over IPv6.  Bad DNS and/or network
                configurations.  Once these were fixed, the problems
                cleared up.

                On Sunday, April 24, 2016, Erik Kline <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                    On 24 April 2016 at 19:53, Jeroen Massar
                    <[email protected]> wrote:
                    >  On 2016-04-24 11:51, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) wrote:
                    > > One of the first Belgian ISP to deploy IPv6 (VOO)
                    is now recommending to
                    > > its Android Marshmallow (6.0.1) users to
                    deactivate IPv6 on their
                    > > residential WiFi CPE... :-(
                    > >
                    > > It appears that the issue is about IPv6 web
                    sites/apps being really
                    > > slower when using IPv6.
                    >
                    >  Is it a DNS issue maybe?
                    >
                    >  https://www.sixxs.net/faq/dns/?faq=ipv6slowconnect
                    >
                    >  As that has been the general cause of "Disable
                    IPv6!!!!!" around the
                    >  world for many years already.
                    >
                    >  Of course, without more details, little one really
                    can say. Bug number
                    >  maybe?
                    >
                    >  Greets,
                    >   Jeroen
                    >

                    Yeah, a link to something that eventually leads to a
                    bug report would be good.

                    Also if anybody has adb installed they can just try
                    "adb shell dumpsys
                    connectivity --diag" and see what the
                    over-simplified diagnostic
                    output shows.




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