On Fri, 4 Oct 2019, Michel Py wrote:

Hi Carlos,

Carlos Friaças wrote :
We have to acknowledge "IPv6 zealots" are real.
Disclaimer: i think i was part of that group some years ago.

Indeed, and so was I. WAS.


But Mr.Rey's reference about IPv6 deployment rates also makes a good point!

Nobody cares about deployment rates. What good does it do, if people don't use 
it ?
This is more realistic : https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html
During the week, we are below 25%.

So...?
Things move slowly, but they are moving.
IPv6 in terms of volume is still a long way behind IPv4.


We also have to acknowledge "IPv4 zealots" are real.

And they are the ones with the money. The lobbyists. The connections. The 
banana peels. The 75% market share.
The IPv4 zealots have not always been there; they have been created as a 
reaction to the nonsense of the IPv6 zealots.

Admitting that "zealotism" is not a got thing might be a good 1st step.


IPv6 replacing IPv4 is a delusion.

Same can be said about the oil-driven economy, however...



3 months ago, I turned DECNET off on my network. It was actually not even an IT/network decision; customer decided they were done with a product, and we de-commissioned the tools with DECNET. Business decision. We run OS/2 Warp, MS-DOS, Windows 95, HPUX, Solaris, Windows 2000, and I probably forget some.

So, hardly any IPv6 there :-)


In 20 years, I will still need IPv4.

Sure, if IPv6 doesn't become dominant.


And I have enough IPv4 on my hands for the foreseeable future. I bought some 
recently, just in case.

The "foreseeable future" is also a bit uncertain :-) If a new project pops up that will need 10x the public address space you have... good luck. But yes, a thick wallet might solve it...

Cheers,
Carlos


I encourage the WG group to read this :
https://www.internetgovernance.org/2019/02/20/report-on-ipv6-get-ready-for-a-mixed-internet-world/
And the full text :
https://www.internetgovernance.org/wp-content/uploads/IPv6-Migration-Study-final-report.pdf
Serious work, paid by ICANN.

Michel.

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