Hi,

On Sun, Oct 06, 2019 at 04:52:09AM +0200, Enno Rey wrote:
> > is even more frightening.... it forces the Internet in the hands of a 
> > couple of cloud providers and is a real ossification of the Internet
> 
> Can you elaborate on the line of argumentation here? thanks in advance
> 
> & everybody have a great Sunday

Well, the way the Internet has evolved in the past few years is (for
"95+% of everything", so those few of you that do "ssh $home" are all
on this list, but not relevant in the grand scheme)

 - all traffic is https
   - browser vendors are trying to push even DNS on https
 - all traffic is between "users" and "content providers"
 - "end-to-end" traffic is relayed via cloud services, because there is
   no end-to-end anymore (IPv6 routers ship with firewalls on-by-default,
   IPv4 routers with NAT - which can be circumvented, but every new 
   application would have to deal with it)
 - due to DoS etc., most important content is hosted by a small handful
   of very large CDNs and/or anti-ddos providers

which, taken all together, means "the Internet works nicely and smoothly
for 99% of the users, but rolling out anything *new* is near to impossible
unless you happen to be a browser vendor or major content network"

ossified...

(And the fact that it *does* work nicely and smoothly for most users 
means it's fairly hard to convince anyone that this evolution might not
be what "we" - for some definition of "we" - really want)

Gert Doering
        -- NetMaster
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have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?

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