Hi,

> On 23 Nov 2021, at 16:41, Dave Taht <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 8:31 AM Tim Chown <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Dave,
>> 
>>> On 23 Nov 2021, at 16:09, Dave Taht <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It is perhaps selfish of me to really want active queue management, of
>>> some form, as part of specifications for new equipment.
>>> 
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc7567/
>> 
>> I would agree, but this doc is IPv6 requirements, while the RFC is generally 
>> applicable to v4 or v6?
> 
> It's an and, not an or.
> 
> Additionally useful treatments of the ipv6 flow header, and the
> diffserv & ecn bits, the ability to shape or police traffic, would be
> nice to have in a document that talks to the properties of switches
> and routers.

Fair point, and we do have for example

        • (QOS) Assured Forwarding [RFC2597]
        • (QOS) Expedited Forwarding [RFC3246]

In section 4.4 for routers and L3 switches.

Other views?

Tim

>> Tim
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 7:38 AM Tim Chown via ipv6-wg <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Eric,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Many thanks for your comments, we’ve updated the ‘living draft’ at
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/10HsfHDOIhUPIvGk9WP0azJiIsMVzQ49RsqWfnbNtceI/edit#
>>>> And attached as PDF.
>>>> 
>>>> In-line...
>>>> 
>>>>> On 5 Nov 2021, at 07:52, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tim*2, Sander, Jan, and Merike,
>>>>> 
>>>>> First of all, thank you for taking the pen to update this document. As 
>>>>> you kindly asked for comments, here are some
>>>>> - page 2: 'fairly recent' won't age well ;-)
>>>> 
>>>> Removed.
>>>> 
>>>>> - page 4: all requirements are limited to performance, but should it also 
>>>>> include telemetry/monitoring ? Or is it implicit in the list of RFC ?
>>>> 
>>>> Agreed - we added mention of capabilities in a couple of places.
>>>> 
>>>>> - page 4: what about systems to handle VMs and containers ?
>>>> 
>>>> Out of scope.
>>>> 
>>>>> - page 4: mobile devices have a *big difference* with normal host though 
>>>>> as they often have multiple interfaces active at the same time.
>>>> 
>>>> True, but out of scope.  The document is about their connectivity to the 
>>>> enterprise infrastructure.  We could note this, but currently do not.
>>>> 
>>>>> - page 4: should we assume that Wi-Fi access points are 'normal layer-2 
>>>>> switches' ?
>>>> 
>>>> Added text to say consider as L2 consumer switch, see Section 3.1.
>>>> 
>>>>> - page 6: I am surprised to see RFC 8415 DHCPv6 client as mandatory…
>>>> 
>>>> Fair comment, as this could be something contentious.  The only way we can 
>>>> think to avoid that is to include the DHCPv6 requirements conditionally, 
>>>> ie. “IF you need DHCPv6 then…” those requirements are required.  So 
>>>> networks deploying with just RA for address configuration can avoid that.
>>>> 
>>>>> - page 6: if not mistaken RFC 8200 now includes RFC 5722 and RFC 8021 (so 
>>>>> no need to add the latter in the requirements)
>>>> 
>>>> Deleted 5722 and 8021.
>>>> 
>>>>> - page 7: same surprise to see all DHCP-related requirements
>>>> 
>>>> Also made into an “If DHCPv6 is needed then”
>>>> 
>>>>> - page 7 and other: nice to list some MIB but I would expect some YANG 
>>>>> modules as well for enterprise/ISP devices
>>>> 
>>>> RFC8504 covers this in16.2, should we say the same words here, as optional 
>>>> in each section?
>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8504#section-16.2
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>> 
>>>>> - page 9: should Jen's RFC 9131 be added as optional ?
>>>> 
>>>> Can do, in which sections?   Presumably 4.1 and 4.4?
>>>> 
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> Tim
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
> 
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