Hi,

Yup yup, l I was being generous, no use whinging about how every new
architecture just grabbed easiest from what they googled, there’s a lot of
new space and  enterprises are looking for help. (At least some in the
organisations who are looking at forecasting future projects)

it’s a great opportunity to start renewed. Easiest may be to not agonise
over how much legacy to bring forward and just start fresh and make the old
have to update  Imho

RIPE, while I believe their position is they are not the enforcers for
every implementor or and don’t fall subject to new eu critical
infrastructure regulation as global, still hold a lot of advisory kudos in
this space.

Will be an interesting study / paper.

Clodagh

On Mon 26 Jun 2023 at 13:21, Gert Doering <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 01:16:02PM +0100, Clodagh Durkan wrote:
> > I am also really interested in this topic, really suspect it???s not
> broken
> > for the most enterprises so why invest into what???s a whole new re
> > architecture, skills in-house may also not exist.
>
> If you have ever looked at (large) enterprise IPv4 networks, you know
> that you do not need to "suspect".  It's broken beyond any imagination,
> usually, with lots of internal NAT44, duplicate use of RFC1918 segments
> ("every kubernetes cluster has the same 10.x.0.0/16 subnet, because that's
> how automated deploymet works - and besides, it's the only /16 available
> out of 10/8!").
>
> Going from there to IPv6 would bring immense benefits in the medium to
> long term - but in the short term, it's "extra work!" and "nobody has
> time!", and also "nobody cares, these are costs that people have become
> used to" (and that's the worst bit of all).
>
> Gert Doering
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